They basically did do this with the help of the BC NDP.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Are all liberals like this? Utterly incapable of connecting anything together that isn't spoonfed to them?
They basically did do this with the help of the BC NDP.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Are all liberals like this? Utterly incapable of connecting anything together that isn't spoonfed to them?
I wonder why they didnt use a more accurate headline like
"Unclear if measures to target people who don't commit crimes will reduce crime"
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/mun...bans-1.5916401
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You went to the CBC to read about gun legislation? That was your first mistake.
Originally posted by Thales of Miletus
If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
Originally posted by Toma
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He pouted? I must have missed that... I guess his drama teaching days paid off.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Hmm good point, he likely had a shit eating grin while on the phone with Biden talking about KXL.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
What I was getting at was that despite Trudeau being an incompetent moron, the real fault for our disfunction lies at the feet of the electorate. I do not expect the electorate to change.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
And yes, the Conservatives are incompetent.
The conditions put on Northern Gateway came from the previous Conservative government. Those are the conditions that weren't met. Similar conditions were put on for TMX (fewer, but it was already a built route). Since when is 'fulfill these conditions' considered obfuscating the process? Without them, there wasn't going to be the public support to get them built anyway.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
They bought it because they wanted it built. It's as simple as that. If they didn't want it built, they didn't need to approve it.
What do you think Canada was in a position to do? Get into a trade war we can't win with our largest trading partner?Do you mean because Trudeau pouted and told Biden that he's "disappointed" by the cancellation?
Maybe take the super strong stance of "we won't take no for an answer" and reading a list of talking points to an ambassador that was so effective in getting Obama to approve it?
The electorate has always been the weakest part of any democracy. To fault dysfunction is to fault democracy itself.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
No, the problem that Alberta et al, is the dysfunction of the rest of Canada's electorate as it relates to them.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
For NG yes the initial conditions were put in place under the past government but are you forgetting that upon taking office in 2015 JT promised to impose the oil-tanker ban off of BC's North coast effectively killing the project, a year before he killed it for good? For TMX in 2016 the Libs forced the consideration of upstream GHG emissions in the assessment and forced them to "improve" FN consultations. As for EE you already admitted what the Libs did was "heavy handed" earlier.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Let's just agree to disagree as this is going nowhere, you think the Libs did well on the pipeline front I think what they did was a colossal fuck up.
Surely you'd agree there's a spectrum here, with going home like a dog with its tail tucked between its legs on one end and a full blown trade war on the other end.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Build more bike lanes as offsets?
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I'm curious what other options you think are on that spectrum. Serious question, i've been trying to think of what else could have REALISTICALLY been done, but nothing comes to mind without the risk of fucking up the relationship with our most important trading partner.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Great question, I honestly don't know what our options are from a political/diplomatic perspective. Perhaps we could at least seek to recoup some of our financial losses? I thought I read that there were provisions under the old NAFTA that would allow us to do soThis quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
You mean like the Trudeau government did in 2018? Collecting $371M in tariffs on US goods retaliating on steel/aluminum tariffs from the US? Or the trade war they got into last summer with the US over the same issue?This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Except the US didn't put tariffs on us with this. What do you suggest we get into a trade war with? We put tariffs on something, they do the same, the economy takes a hit, consumers need to pay more, and the permit remains cancelled. You're basically suggesting everybody pay a 'feel good' tax to make it seem like something is being done. Not to mention Alberta exports more to the U.S. than it imports, so we'd take a bigger hit than the Americans in a trade war regardless.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The tit-for-tat response would be to cancel a future pipeline coming into Canada. So do you want us to do that?
Yeah it's a tough one. I'm hoping TC sues the US gov't and it somehow makes it up to the conservative SCOTUS and they rule that they have to reinstate the presidential permit. No idea how realistic that is though. But either way i think that should be led by TC and not the Canadian gov't as to avoid pissing them off.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Pretty sure reinstating the permit isn’t in the cards, the pipeline isn’t being built that’s done, civil damages however are possibly outcomes. Possibly.
Originally posted by Thales of Miletus
If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
Originally posted by Toma
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In both situations they are taking money out of the pockets of Canadians. The response on that issue was swift and quite brutal and then also followed up with negoation. In that situation it wasn't just an expression of "disappointment" from Trudeau and a commitment to work on other issues. Long term infrastructure investments have a much broader impact on our economy as opposed to tariffs do which can be reversed very easily and nearly instantly. You cannot flip the switch and build that kind of infrastructure overnight.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
There isn't a suggestion here that we impose tariffs but it's the concern over the change in level of responses from our government. An expression of disappointment and moving on to other issues with the president isn't even in the same league of response as when it came to the tariffs. There is no movement on negotiating our stance on this like we did with issues in the past administration, this is an acceptance. If it were seen as important they would have it out in the media that they are meeting with the Biden administration to negotiate our position on this. I agree with a past statement from you on this that it would damage their brand where they have that support right now, so even if they were doing that they would not publicize it.
The implication for me here is not if it is about a pipeline, it's the duplicity in which this government conducts itself. I think this will come to an interesting head if the US government pushes to shut down Line 5 and see the Liberal governments response to that considering the management of their brand. I think if they chose to not approve Line 3's replacement that would be a big issue in Wisconsin and Minnesota as it is here.
Wow, so trudeau confiscates firearms from law abiding citizens in the name of "public safety" , and then turns around and reduces penalties for the use of guns during crimes. You can't even make this shit up
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In his mind, the people who are actually committing gun crimes are "people with health problems, single mothers, young people who perhaps have made a couple of mistakes” and shouldn't actually have a negative consequence for committing the following crimes and holding them to account is systemic racism.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Use of firearm in commission of offence
Possession of restricted or prohibited weapon knowing possession is unauthorized
Possession of loaded handgun
Possession of weapon obtained through crime
Weapons trafficking
Unauthorized import/export of firearm
Illegal discharge of a firearm with intent
Robbery with firearm
Extortion with firearm
Meanwhile, my AR is now sooooo dangerous that it has to be banned and locked in a safe for eternity or surrendered for pennies on the dollar and destroyed.
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