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    500$ in sales a month, not hard to burn through that in expenses trying to get going. The 5k always made me wonder, because CRA didn't really break it out.

    But as has been reposted widely since t1-adj take out your write-offs - pay a few $ in tax, keep the cerb.

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    Uh, guys, this isn't a GHG thing - we gotta pay the covid bill somehow.

    Better than an income tax.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyL View Post
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    The amount of oil gas and electricity we import - isn't a rounding error. If we taxed what we import at the same rate we taxed our domestic production...
    We don't import electricity. Maybe cross provincial lines but not nationally.
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    Can't wait for the 75% inheritance tax!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cosworth View Post
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    We don't import electricity. Maybe cross provincial lines but not nationally.
    Look at me referencing a hippy site https://thenarwhal.ca/clean-b-c-is-q...nce-heres-why/

    BC basically exports ALL it's hydro power to the USA (california) and purchases back whatever's cheap. So no - joules aren't being exported, just $ imported. Green washing.

    Nationally we export a ton of power to the USA... Quebec lives to power NY...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AndyL View Post
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    Look at me referencing a hippy site https://thenarwhal.ca/clean-b-c-is-q...nce-heres-why/

    BC basically exports ALL it's hydro power to the USA (california) and purchases back whatever's cheap. So no - joules aren't being exported, just $ imported. Green washing.

    Nationally we export a ton of power to the USA... Quebec lives to power NY...
    Maybe I am misunderstanding what you're saying? We're saying the same.

    Your post said we (and I assume you meant Canada) import O&G and Electricity. With the water resources in BC, MB, and Quebec, then in house generation in AB, Ontario.... etc. I know we do not import much or any unless there is a strange financial incentive. Most is exported to the US. Quebec to the Eastern Seaboard (down to D.C.) and BC connects to California.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Cosworth View Post
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    Maybe I am misunderstanding what you're saying? We're saying the same.

    Your post said we (and I assume you meant Canada) import O&G and Electricity. With the water resources in BC, MB, and Quebec, then in house generation in AB, Ontario.... etc. I know we do not import much or any unless there is a strange financial incentive. Most is exported to the US. Quebec to the Eastern Seaboard (down to D.C.) and BC connects to California.
    Yes the green electricity bc produces is "sold" to California at expensive rates, bc buys cheap coal power (that I guess california can't buy?). So green-washing at its finest...

    But meanwhile - that coal fired electricity they "buy" isn't subject to carbon tax... Going by the downstream emissions argument on pipelines - shouldn't they apply to electricity too?

    And yeah as we all know - every drop of oil imported also manages not to be subject to production/extraction carbon tax.

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    https://www.politico.com/news/2020/1...way-out-444999

    So trudeau going after big tech now...

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    Can't we just stop giving out tax rebates FFS. That would get us more money than new taxes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    Can't we just stop giving out tax rebates FFS. That would get us more money than new taxes.
    Yes. Simplify the tax code.

    Tax credits and rebates are Satan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Yes. Simplify the tax code.

    Tax credits and rebates are Satan.
    But all the loopholes and subtle/complex structures are how all politicians' friends and donors keep their money!

    The fact the public is convinced that raising the income tax on high-earners is a way to punish the wealthy just shows how retarded they actually are.

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    It’s mostly how they con the masses into not understanding quite how much of our incomes we actually pay in taxes.
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    I feel like it's been a long time since was on my "one page tax return" rant. Is it time to revive that again?

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    Quote Originally Posted by davidI View Post
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    But all the loopholes and subtle/complex structures are how all politicians' friends and donors keep their money!

    The fact the public is convinced that raising the income tax on high-earners is a way to punish the wealthy just shows how retarded they actually are.
    Successful economies are driven by a small minority of people smart enough and skilled enough to cause that success. Then the worker bees do all the grunt work. The trick for the small minority of smart people is to create mechanisms to ensure the worker bees are happy to grunt away for the 70 years, living something resembling subsistence, until it is time for them to have their stroke or heart attack or cancer or whatever.

    Things that make worker bees happy: distractions like pro sports, relatively cheap food and alcohol, a delusion that they also can ascend beyond worker-bee status. The economy needs these people to be either in productive mode, or distraction mode. This works because most of these people would just fuck it all up if they actually got to make decisions. When the worker bees get too much influence, you get, well...Canada. And we all know how well that is going.

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    Complaining about Laurentian Elites is both a lot of work, and a major distraction, so for this worker bee, it's all working out nicely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    Complaining about Laurentian Elites is both a lot of work, and a major distraction, so for this worker bee, it's all working out nicely.
    Laurentian Elites are not the "smart and skilled" type of elites. They're rent-seekers.

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    Don't distract me from my distraction.

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    Just get rid of income taxes altogether and go all in with a land value tax. Let us basque in the development efficiency of the perfect tax.

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    Wrong basque. But yeah, income taxes are a poor tool, and create perverse incentives. Lowering or removing them is a valid concept.

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