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    Hey all...

    was wondering if anyone here has delt with an adult onset of Asthma?

    this is an odd year, I got a really really bad flu in February and had a variety of symptoms including super tachycardia, high BP, chest tightness... etc... it was a very strange period where I've focused on diet and alot of cardio to somehow manage to bring my body back to a semblence of normality.

    oddly I'm even battling with arthritus in my toes and this is the weirdest year I've delt with.

    My doctor sent me to cardiology tests as well as a spirology test which has yet came back as "OK" - but even always having being in good shape, and high focus in intense cardio the last 120 days... I'm still just "OK" with my resting heart rate, BP and I'm blowing within my age range.

    Thing is... I am not in bad shape... I have low body fat, I weigh about 195 @ 6'0 and can still go and run a 10K under 50 minutes. Under exertion and it was noted it takes alot of effort to even get to 80% of my Max heart rate, it does seem to take a while for my BP to normalize.

    During my "Flu" I had a very very bad case of bronchitus, to the point where the doctor perscribed me a rescue inhaler. I unfotunately have been leaning on it, as for the first time in my life I'm dealing with these bouts of chest tightness where I almost have to think to breath, yet I don't have weezing.

    Anyone have something like this happen to them?

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    Are you sure you didn't get teh covids?

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    For years and years whenever I would exercise hard I'd always end up in a coughing fit and just chalked it up to being "whatever".

    About 6 years ago I was working out in the gym and my trainer at the time wanted me on the rowing machine and to go as hard and as fast as I could for about 1 minute.

    I got about 30 seconds into it before it felt like my heart was about to rip out of my chest, I could taste iron in my mouth and I got dizzy and had to lay down on the floor.

    Took a bit of testing and later found out I have whats referred to as exercise induced asthma.

    Apparently the drier air is a big cause of this and doing stuff in the winter compounds even worse. If I am outside after a big heavy wet snow fall I can't shovel the snow without using an inhaler otherwise I'll end up in a asthma attack and I'll feel like utter crap and get super tired real fast.

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    Are you sure you didn't get teh covids?
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    Common with bronchitis. It happened to me about 20 years ago. Really bad case. Had to use an inhaler for a few years after. I already had a mild case of exercise induced asthma any way. Still have that but the symptoms from the bronchitis went away eventually.
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    Common with bronchitis. It happened to me about 20 years ago. Really bad case. Had to use an inhaler for a few years after. I already had a mild case of exercise induced asthma any way. Still have that but the symptoms from the bronchitis went away eventually.
    I think you are right... I'm the kind of person who typically gets a deep chest cold and bronchitis often.

    Never had "asthma" BUT my brother had it bad and my father has COPD without ever even smoking. I just found out that my Grandmother had died of emphysema and was never a smoker (died before I was born)

    So clearly I may be predisposition to have respiratory issues - which I guess I steer extra clear away from Covid.

    I've never had issues recovering from Bronchitus in the past - but it makes sense... keep the inflammation down and try to reverse whatever damage this "Flu" had

    I find using a 24 hr reactine and a bronchial dilator (blue puffer) to - but I think I need a red steroid puffer which the Dr. has yet to call me back about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    Sucks to your ass-mar, Piggy!
    But he's gots the cole vids toes. Methinks OP is in da nile.

    OP. Are you itchy, gassy, or thirsty?

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    Update

    Saw the doctor - as per the spirology test I was blowing within range, but I explained that my chest was tight and to the point where it would/could wake me up from time to time gasping for air.

    He thought perhaps this was a physiological issue, however I explained that using reactine it helped with the symptoms and then asked... "how do you do with cats". I told him they destroy me - his response is, yup you then have asthma.

    There isn't a definitive way to tell the extent of asthma, but its response to allergins is common and that more people have asthma than realized.

    He put me on a controller called Symbicort (use it twice a day) and said that I "could" keep taking reactine if I'd like.

    using Symbicort gave me almost immediate releif, but depedant on the day (even just this weekend) I still find I need reactine to really keep everything at bay.

    Kinda sucks and I hope that if I can keep the inflammation down for long enough that my lungs can recover so I'm not dependant on this crap.

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    I would be getting another opinion personally but, I'm not a Dr. I just play one on the internet.

    Seriously though, diligently explore allergens (including food) and psychological factors (ie. stress/anxiety) and max out the "natural" ways to mitigate factors so you don't develop a dependency (again even psychologically) on the inhaler.
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    May not be relevant here - but what is the air quality in your dwelling like? Or did you grow up in a home with bad air?

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    drs prescribe puffers or symbicort all the time when you get sick. To know if you have asthma you need to see a lung specialist.

    I got referred to one last year as I had a cough that never went away over half a year. After lots and lots of testing they said I had a mild case of asthma.

    Not sure I agree with the diagnosis as I never need a puffer/symbicort other then when I dealt with a never ending cough. Nothing seems to bring on an asthma attack. It's almost like they wanted to diagnose me with something but weren't 100% sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwill View Post
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    drs prescribe puffers or symbicort all the time when you get sick. To know if you have asthma you need to see a lung specialist.

    I got referred to one last year as I had a cough that never went away over half a year. After lots and lots of testing they said I had a mild case of asthma.

    Not sure I agree with the diagnosis as I never need a puffer/symbicort other then when I dealt with a never ending cough. Nothing seems to bring on an asthma attack. It's almost like they wanted to diagnose me with something but weren't 100% sure.
    Having a cough for months on end is not unusual especially with our climate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwill View Post
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    drs prescribe puffers or symbicort all the time when you get sick. To know if you have asthma you need to see a lung specialist.

    I got referred to one last year as I had a cough that never went away over half a year. After lots and lots of testing they said I had a mild case of asthma.

    Not sure I agree with the diagnosis as I never need a puffer/symbicort other then when I dealt with a never ending cough. Nothing seems to bring on an asthma attack. It's almost like they wanted to diagnose me with something but weren't 100% sure.
    Nothing environmentally has changed and I do not work or live near anything of high risk.

    That said - I do find that a specific tree in the neighbours back yard seems to make my chest more tight, but its been there for over 8 years...

    I'm thinking the same that allergens are the culprit - however I never had this problem until I had this rather bad bout of a chest cold... but if I have an affinity for Lung related pulmonary issues, I guess it was just time

    I hope the Symbicort and Antihistamines help reduce inflamation to the point where by Winter I won't need it and my lungs heal up

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    If you even suspect allergies a little. Start twice daily nasal rinses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by r3ccOs View Post
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    Nothing environmentally has changed and I do not work or live near anything of high risk.

    That said - I do find that a specific tree in the neighbours back yard seems to make my chest more tight, but its been there for over 8 years...

    I'm thinking the same that allergens are the culprit - however I never had this problem until I had this rather bad bout of a chest cold... but if I have an affinity for Lung related pulmonary issues, I guess it was just time

    I hope the Symbicort and Antihistamines help reduce inflamation to the point where by Winter I won't need it and my lungs heal up
    I have a plant called persicaria polymorpha that everybody in my family is allergic to. I'm killing it this week. Never used to bother us but it's gotten to a monstrous size and makes a ton of flowers now.

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    Also this year was a horrible year for allergies as all the plant life went nuts reproducing due to the harsh and long winter.
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    Having a cough for months on end is not unusual especially with our climate.
    Long story short It wasn't just a cough as there would be times I couldn't breath. Nothing they did over half a year or more did much. I got referred to a lung specialist eventually due to the weirdness of it all and how long things continued.

    After a bunch of visits to a lung specialist over many months it was determined I had asthma. As an adult. Super odd and still think its bs.

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    Nothing environmentally has changed and I do not work or live near anything of high risk.

    That said - I do find that a specific tree in the neighbours back yard seems to make my chest more tight, but its been there for over 8 years...

    I'm thinking the same that allergens are the culprit - however I never had this problem until I had this rather bad bout of a chest cold... but if I have an affinity for Lung related pulmonary issues, I guess it was just time

    I hope the Symbicort and Antihistamines help reduce inflamation to the point where by Winter I won't need it and my lungs heal up
    a lung specialist can determine if its asthma. For me they tried to force an asthma attack by having me inhale some sort of chemical. If its asthma theyll sort it out real quickly for you. More importantly theyll be able to diagnose how bad it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gwill View Post
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    Long story short It wasn't just a cough as there would be times I couldn't breath. Nothing they did over half a year or more did much. I got referred to a lung specialist eventually due to the weirdness of it all and how long things continued.

    After a bunch of visits to a lung specialist over many months it was determined I had asthma. As an adult. Super odd and still think its bs.



    a lung specialist can determine if its asthma. For me they tried to force an asthma attack by having me inhale some sort of chemical. If its asthma theyll sort it out real quickly for you. More importantly theyll be able to diagnose how bad it is.
    correct I believe this to be Methacholine test... that said when he said, do you feel these symptoms around cats? I said yes - he's like yup, most people with Cat allergies do have underlying allergic asthma.

    This year is particularly bad for allergins, but I never had this issue until my last bout of bronchitus.... odd

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    Tbh I'd just pay and get a covid serology test done for the sake of knowing. Its doubtful its that but some of the timeline and symptoms sounds like it could be and there's a growing number of studies that show lung damage can last longer than the few weeks of symptoms.

    https://ichorblood.ca/pages/COVID-19...ody+Testing/14

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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    Tbh I'd just pay and get a covid serology test done for the sake of knowing. Its doubtful its that but some of the timeline and symptoms sounds like it could be and there's a growing number of studies that show lung damage can last longer than the few weeks of symptoms.

    https://ichorblood.ca/pages/COVID-19...ody+Testing/14
    well I am recovering but didn't have pneumonia... but I could say that my cough in Feb/March was maybe the 2nd or 3rd worse I've ever had, which means after probably more than a few bouts of bronchitis - I've somehow done some damage that I hope to recover.

    I think key is to keep taking the cortical steroid (Advair/Symbicort) and some antihistamines and reduce the inflammation to let them heal...

    any recommeondations on things like taking more omega 3 or vitamin c?

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3ccOs View Post
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    well I am recovering but didn't have pneumonia... but I could say that my cough in Feb/March was maybe the 2nd or 3rd worse I've ever had, which means after probably more than a few bouts of bronchitis - I've somehow done some damage that I hope to recover.

    I think key is to keep taking the cortical steroid (Advair/Symbicort) and some antihistamines and reduce the inflammation to let them heal...

    any recommeondations on things like taking more omega 3 or vitamin c?


    I still have bouts at night where I wake up.

    I'm finding this - my nostrils are clogged and I wake up dry and my chest tight... but no productive mucus, which should be atypical to Asthma. Symbicort and antihistamines seem to help, and I am taking an extra puff of Symbicort mid day which seems to keep most of the symptoms at bay, but I really do not like that I am on this protocol.

    I want to see an allergy/asthma expert - but my doctor is refusing a referral at this point... like WTF

    Edit - managed to convince the Doctor to send me to a respirologist

    then I was talking to a friend who was an ex Bike Pro who's kid developed exercise induced asthma who mentioned that its not uncommon for athletes to develop asthma and I did some googling and https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...m-sky-swimmers

    interesting. I swam to National Lifeguard and competed... played hockey most of my life, spending a lot of time outdoors, I ski'd to a high level, I run, I played soccer to a high level, I cycle (road/fat/mtb) and lift at least 4 times a week thinking all this (on top of other recreations like Golf) would prevent me from developing disease... meanwhile I'm finding that I'm getting bouts of tachycardia and now asthma.

    At one point, people had indicated that a lower resting heart rate from endurance aerobic conditioning is better for you -- and now they're saying that the overdeveloped right ventricle and the sinus node begins to fire oddly putting more and more people into Afib.

    I think this is going to show that overdoing it is actually an issue.
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