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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    It's a Japanese take on an American muscle car, like it has been for decades. It is what it is - and always has been!
    Quelle sUrPrIsE!!

    I absolutely loved my Z and I think Nissan has always had a unique spot with this vehicle. Making me wish I bought a 370Z when their prices tanked and Turbo'd it.
    I like some things about this car, but overall it's not for me.
    Tell me about it! Before the car market went berserk, there was a list 2 pages long for 2017 370z cars with low KM (like 20 to 40k, which was what I was looking for as a project car to do a mildish boost, exhaust, etc, the usual suspects mods). I almost closed on one that was $22,000. Now they are typically $8k to $10k more. Booooo. I really like the 370 despite its age.

    Regarding the Supra, most guys who have dyno'd theirs have found that the HP has been widely underreported, 20-30+hp seems to be a frequent number I hear in vids/posts for 2020 models. The 2021 book number was 388hp, and one stock one on YT put down 398 to the wheels. Car and Driver had their 2021 Supra run 3.7 to 60 and a 12.2 QM run.

    It'll be interesting to see how the 400z compares to those numbers, as well as the price obviously. For me, it'll be the experience in the car that'll sell me, the numbers don't matter nearly as much as I've gotten older.
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    As someone who owned quite a few different Nissan/Infinitis in my 20s and 30s, I did own a 370z for 3.5 years before I got bored and made a switch to my current car, a 135i.

    As much as I miss the interior of the 370z and the looks of the outside, performance wise, especially in fun factor and how the car feels and drives, the BMW wins hands down. Before my 135i, I actually bought a 2008 Mini Cooper S beforehand and at that time, hadn't sold my Z yet and even then, it was a world of difference between the MCS and 370Z, getting back into the Z felt like driving a FWD economy car the steering was so light....I don't think I'll ever go Japanese again if I wanted fun-factor/handling.

    The 370Z is the best looking of the 3 though, and this new 400, looks awesome from a old guy standpoint (I love how more bland looking it is haha)...the Zs are also likely the most reliable sports car you can buy so theres that too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimi View Post
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    I don't know. I look at this and think the Supra is the better car in every way.
    All depends on price, if the Z undercuts the Supra by $15K, the Supra will be even less appealing than it already is. The Z coming with a proper manual transmission is a huge perk in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Inzane View Post
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    Even looks?
    I like how Supra looks. Would be sweet if they release a Targa version like that SEMA concept.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 94boosted View Post
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    All depends on price, if the Z undercuts the Supra by $15K, the Supra will be even less appealing than it already is. The Z coming with a proper manual transmission is a huge perk in my opinion.
    It's going to undercut the Supra but not by much as it's going to start at around $40k USD for the base model and the Supra is also getting a manual transmission in the fall.

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    Damn if they release a Targa supra... Z what?

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    No way Nissan is leaving $15k on the table, it'll start low 60s. I still take the supra looks, chassis, bmw I6>V6, zf8>zf9.

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    What about t top 400z that would be sick, targa Supra would be so awsome. Not that I’d buy either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by heavyD View Post
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    It's going to undercut the Supra but not by much as it's going to start at around $40k USD for the base model and the Supra is also getting a manual transmission in the fall.
    The Supra starts at $51.6K USD and $68.5K CAD. Besides, a manual Supra hasn't been formally confirmed yet. As for Nissan's pricing......



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    Not clear what is the relevance of 370Z pricing. The Supra manual is a done deal and the announcement a mere formality.

    https://www.roadandtrack.com/news/a3...a-manual-2022/
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    It's simply to show that $40K USD doesn't necessarily equal $50.5K CAD, if Nissan's previous pricing differences between the US and Canadian markets mean anything. Even if not, there's still going to be somewhere around a $12K USD difference in base price between the two cars, unless Toyota significantly reduces the MSRP for the manual Supra.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 94boosted View Post
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    It's simply to show that $40K USD doesn't necessarily equal $50.5K CAD, if Nissan's previous pricing differences between the US and Canadian markets mean anything. Even if not, there's still going to be somewhere around a $12K USD difference in base price between the two cars, unless Toyota significantly reduces the MSRP for the manual Supra.
    I still think we can't use 370Z pricing as a guide. We live in a post pandemic world where a Wrangler Rubicon is $60K+.

    I think new Z will start awfully close to Supra 2.0's starting price.

    And Nissan may have 2023 all to themselves because Supra production has stopped thanks to shit show in Ukraine and who's left in this price range? Mustang GT?

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    What about t top 400z that would be sick, targa Supra would be so awsome. Not that I’d buy either.
    I think it's mostly nostalgia talking but I would pick up one if either offers it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    I think new Z will start awfully close to Supra 2.0's starting price.
    The Supra 2.0 starts at ~56K CAD, I'd be willing to bet that the Z undercuts even that price for the base car. Hopefully we'll find out any day now.

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    I think you have the wrong trend man. Cars are not getting cheaper, they're getting a lot more expensive.

    Why in the world would Nissan be undercutting anyone, when they'll likely sell out (or have already sold out) of this car for a few years.

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    Supra is getting a manual, announced today. Looking forward to it

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    Quote Originally Posted by dimi View Post
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    I think you have the wrong trend man. Cars are not getting cheaper, they're getting a lot more expensive.

    Why in the world would Nissan be undercutting anyone, when they'll likely sell out (or have already sold out) of this car for a few years.
    Yup, not disputing that. Keep in mind the last Z started at $30K CAD. We'll see soon enough what it comes in at.



    I hope we see some reviews soon.


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    Quote Originally Posted by 94boosted View Post
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    Yup, not disputing that. Keep in mind the last Z started at $30K CAD. We'll see soon enough what it comes in at.



    I hope we see some reviews soon.

    The last Z didn't start out at $30k though, as noted in this thread it was a price drop in 2017 due to the age of the chassis - IIRC the base price was ~$40k before then.

    I'm interested in these but IMO $50K is nuts for a base model considering what these cars are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by EM2FTL View Post
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    The last Z didn't start out at $30k though, as noted in this thread it was a price drop in 2017 due to the age of the chassis - IIRC the base price was ~$40k before then.

    I'm interested in these but IMO $50K is nuts for a base model considering what these cars are.
    True. The Z I bought was from an OG who was on the waitlist in 2003. He paid at least $48k and around $50k was the going rate until the shocking drop of the 370z in ~2017.
    It was firmly on the $50k bracket for the majority of its run.
    AT THE TIME...

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    lol
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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