Nissan 400z

[94boosted]

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The last Z didn't start out at $30k though, as noted in this thread it was a price drop in 2017 due to the age of the chassis - IIRC the base price was ~$40k before then.

I'm interested in these but IMO $50K is nuts for a base model considering what these cars are.

Yup for sure, it is a parts bin car rolling on largely the same chassis. If they price it anywhere near the Supra it'll be a flop.

[Darkane]

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Double lol

https://www.fishcreeknissancalgary.c..._redirect=true

And it’s in worse shape than it looks. Lol.

[jutes]

What is the mindset of people who are desperate enough to buy sports cars in this market. Can you not live with a normal vehicle for a while?

[ExtraSlow]

Is that fish Creek Nissan car just renders? Is that car even real? Too bad you can't pay cash...

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[EM2FTL]

lmfao

https://www.kijijiautos.ca/cars/niss.../#vip=24696311

[riander5]

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lmfao

https://www.kijijiautos.ca/cars/niss.../#vip=24696311

That makes the nismo look like a wicked deal

I always wanted a Nismo 370z when I was younger. Still think they are pretty cool... not for those prices tho. Those are base model f150 prices!

[Xtrema]

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What is the mindset of people who are desperate enough to buy sports cars in this market. Can you not live with a normal vehicle for a while?

It's an "investment"

[Yolobimmer]

I feel like 400hp just isn't near enough these days.

Weren't they working on a tiny 3 cylinder 600hp engine? That would have been more suitable I think.

[Buster]

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What is the mindset of people who are desperate enough to buy sports cars in this market. Can you not live with a normal vehicle for a while?

Ridgelines are baws

[Yolobimmer]

This is the engine they should have used.

[DonJuan]

Looks like Japan pricing has been set, and a delay on the release date to summer.

https://www.motor1.com/news/581912/n...elayed-summer/

TLDR:
"...start at ¥5,241,500 ($41,081). either the six-speed manual or nine-speed automatic gearbox.
two top specs, the Version ST and Proto Spec, start at ¥6,462,500 and ¥6,966,300 ($50,650 and $54,599), respectively, regardless of the gearbox.

The only price difference in Japan is between the Version S and the Version T. The Version S is equipped with the manual transmission, and it starts at ¥6,063,200 ($47,521). The Version T comes with the auto and starts at a cheaper ¥5,687,000 ($44,572). Both are mid-range trims."

I'm still leaning GR Corolla at this pricing, but only because I'm more in the market for a fun daily. I could see this being big in warmer US climates.

[94boosted]

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Looks like Japan pricing has been set, and a delay on the release date to summer.

https://www.motor1.com/news/581912/n...elayed-summer/

TLDR:
"...start at ¥5,241,500 ($41,081). either the six-speed manual or nine-speed automatic gearbox.
two top specs, the Version ST and Proto Spec, start at ¥6,462,500 and ¥6,966,300 ($50,650 and $54,599), respectively, regardless of the gearbox.

The only price difference in Japan is between the Version S and the Version T. The Version S is equipped with the manual transmission, and it starts at ¥6,063,200 ($47,521). The Version T comes with the auto and starts at a cheaper ¥5,687,000 ($44,572). Both are mid-range trims."

I'm still leaning GR Corolla at this pricing, but only because I'm more in the market for a fun daily. I could see this being big in warmer US climates.

I believe the Japanese "ST" is equivalent to the Performance trim in North America. If so that would put it only a grand (US) less than the Supra 3.0 ($51.6K USD MSRP). That would be a tough sell at that price imo.

Looks like press drives are finally starting https://www.nissanzclub.com/forum/th...speedway.1070/

[bjstare]

This thing is going to fail if it’s priced that close to the supra.

That being said, if it depreciates like a Nissan, it’ll be a good used buy.

[heavyD]

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This thing is going to fail if it’s priced that close to the supra.

That being said, if it depreciates like a Nissan, it’ll be a good used buy.

Have to wait and see what the north american pricing goes. You would think Nissan would be smart enough to price it considerably lower than the Supra as it's not like they had to put a lot of development into this car as it's basically a reskinned 370Z with a new drivetrain.

[94boosted]

Sounds like pricing on May 16th and press embargo lifted on May 18th, if the Z forums are to be believed.

[DonJuan]

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Have to wait and see what the north american pricing goes. You would think Nissan would be smart enough to price it considerably lower than the Supra as it's not like they had to put a lot of development into this car as it's basically a reskinned 370Z with a new drivetrain.

I would think so too. They did something similar when the GT86/BRZ came out and offered a less optioned version of the 350Z to compete with it's price point. Agree this is just a restyling of the 370z with a new engine combo from the parts bin, but isn't that how some of the best muscle cars were made? Current platform is old tech but still a capable sports car, lets just throw a different engine at it. All the Q60S buyers that complain about no manual and trade em in.

I think the marketing team just decided to have field day with the whole renaming, all new, katana sword meh.

[rc2002]

https://jalopnik.com/2023-nissan-z-i...1848849717/amp

Unconfirmed but based on leaks it looks like the 400Z is ~200 lbs heavier than the 370Z?

~3300-3400 has now become ~3500-3600 lbs

[94boosted]

I think the ~3500lbs has been known for a while, but it's not exactly 200lbs heavier than the 370Z. The Performance trim is equivalent to the Touring Sport trim.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Fat people never lose weight, either.

[DonJuan]

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https://jalopnik.com/2023-nissan-z-i...1848849717/amp

Unconfirmed but based on leaks it looks like the 400Z is ~200 lbs heavier than the 370Z?

~3300-3400 has now become ~3500-3600 lbs

I just realized that this is exactly 1000lbs heavier than my car with me in it. But I don't have any much comforts like AC, or reliability.