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    This is a topic that has fascinated me for the past few months.

    I'm curious about where beyond stands on this subject matter. Are you concerned about what's happening in the USA and Canada with the movement of extreme-left ideals?

    This was a fascinating lecture that I've watched a few times to fully digest:



    I've been concerned about the idea of 'Group Think' and the cancellation of individuals who don't adhere to the 'group policy'. JK Rowling is a good example of someone who has been attacked over questioning the trans movement (yet she is actively supporting LGTBQ groups).

    What is most fascinating is that we all accept Fascisms is bad, and understand the way it led to the deaths of millions of people.

    There doesn't seem to be the same understanding that communism has resulted in the deaths of tens of millions in the past decade, and that Russia, China, Cambodia, Vietnam, Cuba, Venezuela all suffered tremendously as a result of the pursuit of a far-left agenda.

    I'm still in my infancy on this subject matter, but would love to hear some educated opinions and discussions about the direction western society is going. Let the discourse begin!

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    Very fascinating and complicated subject indeed. I'm reading Cynical Theories by James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose. They did the grievance studies "hoax papers" to expose the flawed or biased academia. The paper about rape culture in dog park was a complete joke and it got accepted. I can't imagine the amount of bullshit literature that got accepted and used as education material. Feminist Glaciology is a real paper, not making it up.
    Science is being attacked and a lot of people are afraid to speak up. Reason and logic is no longer promoted. It's pretty fucked up world that we live in.
    I think more and more people are starting to realize and can't take it anymore. I'm hoping that's the case.

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    I heard Anne Applebaum on the radio the other day talking about her book "Twilight of Democracy: The Seductive Lure of Authoritarianism". She seemed like a pretty thoughtful person with pretty good insight into human nature. You can hear the whole interview here: https://www.cbc.ca/radio/ideas/pulit...nism-1.5723415

    She talks about cancel culture, authoritarianism on both the left and right, etc.

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    The TERFS vs the Trans is a highly entertaining internecine battle between wokes.

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    ^ had to Google this. I lol’d.
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    Important part starts at around 1:07:30
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    ^ haha..... so basically the former soviets are turning america into amerika ...... maybe the voice of amerika broadcasts of the 70s and 80s werent looked at too favourably?

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    I've been following this stuff for a year or two but a bit more this year. It is so important to understand what is going on in the world these days. These are very dangerous ideologies that are, or are at least attempting, to completely undermine everything that the West was built on.

    This is really good (there are at least two more parts which I haven't gotten around to watching yet):



    This is also another I haven't gotten around to watching:



    It is rather stunning that so many young people and even older leftists think that full-on socialism and communism are good and would benefit the West. I don't know how anyone can be so delusional. Marx was wrong in his assessment of what the fundamental problem of man is, which is why any ideology based on Marxism is doomed to failure. All one has to do is look at history, even recent history and current communist regimes, to see that such ideologies have never done anyone good, except the man at the top and those to whom on any given day he chooses to be charitable to.

    That these ideas are being taught in various and newer forms in universities is astounding but I figure that is why logic and critical thinking haven't been necessary for any degree program for a very long time. The last thing socialists need are students with the ability to think critically about what they are being taught. And now we all pay the price.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lilmira View Post
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    Very fascinating and complicated subject indeed. I'm reading Cynical Theories by James Lindsay and Helen Pluckrose. They did the grievance studies "hoax papers" to expose the flawed or biased academia. The paper about rape culture in dog park was a complete joke and it got accepted. I can't imagine the amount of bullshit literature that got accepted and used as education material. Feminist Glaciology is a real paper, not making it up.
    Science is being attacked and a lot of people are afraid to speak up. Reason and logic is no longer promoted. It's pretty fucked up world that we live in.
    I think more and more people are starting to realize and can't take it anymore. I'm hoping that's the case.
    Cynical Theories is on my wishlist. Just too much reading at the moment but it was recommended by some site or FB page as the must-read book of 2020. There is a video on YouTube that documents Lindsay, Pluckrose, and Peter Boghossian doing the grievance studies. Really interesting but not at all surprising given the state of academia these days.

    Another insightful video as to the state of academia. They teach their students this nonsense, so it's no surprise it will come back to bite some. But that also keeps the level-headed academics from speaking out.


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    Yes, this is more or less directly connected to the temper tantrum the left has been having the last few years... And especially this year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by revelations View Post
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    ^ haha..... so basically the former soviets are turning america into amerika ...... maybe the voice of amerika broadcasts of the 70s and 80s werent looked at too favourably?
    The last part around 1:07:30 and on is eerily accurate, almost like a future prediction that was bang on decades later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by duaner View Post
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    I've been following this stuff for a year or two but a bit more this year. It is so important to understand what is going on in the world these days. These are very dangerous ideologies that are, or are at least attempting, to completely undermine everything that the West was built on.

    This is really good (there are at least two more parts which I haven't gotten around to watching yet):



    This is also another I haven't gotten around to watching:



    It is rather stunning that so many young people and even older leftists think that full-on socialism and communism are good and would benefit the West. I don't know how anyone can be so delusional. Marx was wrong in his assessment of what the fundamental problem of man is, which is why any ideology based on Marxism is doomed to failure. All one has to do is look at history, even recent history and current communist regimes, to see that such ideologies have never done anyone good, except the man at the top and those to whom on any given day he chooses to be charitable to.

    That these ideas are being taught in various and newer forms in universities is astounding but I figure that is why logic and critical thinking haven't been necessary for any degree program for a very long time. The last thing socialists need are students with the ability to think critically about what they are being taught. And now we all pay the price.
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    The elder's I know that fled from a communist society are shaking their heads. Telling me there will be a revolution in the USA and it won't be good.
    They're also heavily disappointed and see the nightmare unfolding again.

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    Humanity as a species, is the same it was 50-100-200 years ago. From a biology standpoint, it shouldn't surprise anyone. Evolution takes hundreds of generations to make tiny changes. Humans understanding of social power structures is a fundamental biological feature that we evolved into.

    TLDR, humans haven't changed, we just carry smartphones now.
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    Trump’s troll game strong:
    Dept. of Education launches probe after Princeton president acknowledges systemic racism
    https://thehill.com/homenews/adminis...rinceton-after

    Good luck proving to your students that you ARE racist while proving to the government that you absolutely ARE NOT racist
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    That's a genius troll

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    Quote Originally Posted by Buster View Post
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    That's a genius troll
    Check mate looks like
    - Princeton have to prove they aren’t racist to the government, but likely are going off the ibram x kendi version in which racism will ALWAYS exist and “positive” discrimination is needed to counter it (which is systemic racism)
    - if an investigation goes forward, it might aid the DOJ case currently looking into the practice of requiring asians/whites for higher SAT scores at Yale and extend to other colleges who have stated they are systemically racist.
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    progressives have invented the concept of "systemic racism" as a mealy mouthed way to describe institutional racism without actually needing to validate the policies and institutions. Systemic racism is a useful term for the wokes because while it is unverifiable, it is also unfalsifiable. That's why this troll is genius.

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    So the outcomes are that the investigation comes up with nothing, meaning there's no repercussions for the university and they can continue to say whatever they want. Hell, they can even use it as an example of systemic racism in that even when admitting they're racist, the system can't acknowledge it.

    Or the government proves systemic racism exists, which means progressives were right, which makes all the regressives lose their minds.

    Yeah, great troll.

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    So the outcomes are that the investigation comes up with nothing, meaning there's no repercussions for the university and they can continue to say whatever they want. Hell, they can even use it as an example of systemic racism in that even when admitting they're racist, the system can't acknowledge it.

    Or the government proves systemic racism exists, which means progressives were right, which makes all the regressives lose their minds.

    Yeah, great troll.
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