TonyTigers PC Build

[Mitsu3000gt]

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That's mostly if you want to upgrade to higher cards later on.

I respectfully disagree. Crappy mobos and PSUs can cause all sorts of issues - they are arguably the two most important components in a PC and the first place prebuilts cheap out on because good ones are expensive and most customers looking at prebuilts don't know anything about PC's and just want a "gaming PC" or whatever, and they only know to pick out key words like "Geforce" and "Intel". That is the typical marketing strategy anyway. If you know exactly what you're getting then fine, but you'll notice on that visions link the PSU and MOBO are conveniently not listed. The second review also comments on the weak PSU, but user reviews have to be taken with a grain of salt.

[The_Rural_Juror]

Why you all hate on the AMD GPUs?

[revelations]

Sounds a little odd but some years ago I started buying PSUs by WEIGHT instead of watts.

So if a 500 watt unit weighs more than a 650 unit (assuming relatively even costs) I will go for the 500W unit. It has to do with the quality of the unit.

Have had exactly 0 PSU failures in 25+ custom builds the last 5 years.

[The_Rural_Juror]

Ah yes. The old Monster headphones trick.
I always thought that it's safe to stick with either Seasonic or Super Flower.

[Kobe]

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Wait a month if you can, Ryzen 5000 (Zen3) is getting announced early October with very significant gains over the outgoing series. Ryzen CPUs come with coolers so you can save money there if you aren't overclocking.

I'd skip the optical drive unless you absolutely need it. There is no reason to have one these days unless you do something specific that requires it.

You can buy a legit surplus windows key on eBay for like $10, up to you though if you want to go that route but it would save you some money.

I would suggest not cheaping out on the PSU and get something like an EVGA G3. Only $20 more too. I'd bump it up to 650W if you can unless you know you won't be doing any upgrades.

Ryzen CPUs love fast RAM, I can't see the exact specs of the RAM you have but look for CAS 14 timings and minimum 3200Mhz (which you have).

2TB for $69.99 is pretty bad pricing, you should be paying around $20-25/TB for whatever storage drive you buy. Look for a better deal or shuck one from an external drive.

Your case says it comes with a PSU...if it is $95 for a PSU and case, you don't want to use that PSU.

Get this board instead for $10 more: https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX77776

Video card looks fine if that is your budget.

Lastly, run everything through pcpartpicker.com because Memory Express' prices are generally terrible, get them to price match if possible.

That's what I would do anyway.

Wow thanks for the info, I got a decent PC right now and I've upgraded the ram/video card/power supply/SDD so I only really need a new motherboard/processor but at memx they told me I'll need a new windows 10 CD as well, and thats $140.

Not sure if I should buy a new case as well and sell the old PC or if it's just not even worth it.

Will be buying it on ebay! Thanks!

I was planning on buying the AMD Ryzen 9 3900X or 3700x and a good motherboard for it as well but I was going to buy it during prime days on like Oct 13th.

Hopefully some newer ones gets released or I might just wait a bit and purchase that when the new models get released.

When I purchased my PC, people said the 500W was to weak for the video card but a friend who used to work there said it would be fine (and it was) but I recently upgraded it to the 750w so I can use it in the new PC when I purchase one.


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Without making a new thread what would the ideal motherboard with the 3900x or 3700x be so I don't have to upgrade it again in a year or two?

Think I'm going to sell this setup (minus the video card, will have a worse one in it, I got a different one anyways now) How much could I really sell this setup for though now a days without a video card (It would have one but I forget which one it after I upgraded, it's not currently installed on my PC)

Purchased this Power Supply: https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX80035 No issues but taking everything apart was a bit of a pain since I've never assembled a PC before till now...

[tonytiger55]

Thanks for the info. I am a bit frustrated to wait another month. Especially going into winter. I don't have anyone around me, especially not being able to go out properly or fly to London. Its going to be a solitary Christmas. Id rather bury my head into something creative and gaming on the side.

I'l play about with this some more.

I thought about building and I have watched a ton of build videos. I am concerned with the things I need (ie anti static kit, cables etc) But this is such a dumb ass question, do the parts come with cables and screws? I have noticed none of the the build videos I watch don't mention this.

Soundblaster LMAO... oh the memories.
I agree on the DVD player. I have some old family videos on DVD and old files on CD. I want to transfer them over and make backup copies. Thats why i'd rather have one.

How many extra fans should I order?

@spikerS I might take you on the offer of the speakers.

This is probably a separate networking question.
I have wiring in the walls for my Condo. The main wiring hub is in a wall in my bedroom. This is where the internet comes in. It plugs into a box.

In the living room I have the internet router/modem thing behind my TV. Wiring comes out of the wall, into the modem, Modem hardwire into the TV.

I have a socket in my spare room. Im assuming I would need to get another box to wire from my wall and into my PC? What would I need?
Would I need to do anything at the port of where the internet comes in (bedroom)...?
I'l try and upload pics later.

[Kobe]

Everything I've purchased has come with screws/cables but I also purchased this on amazon to be safe: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B07...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

If you mean something like this: https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B00...?ie=UTF8&psc=1

It would be fine, just put the main cable into it and get two ethernet cables (one to the PC and one to the box)

You can get them for like $20-$25 this one is just unavailable right now and I purchased it before.

[tonytiger55]

This is the bedroom where the internet comes in.
The current connection leads to living room where it connects to the router.

In the bedroom, I think one of the black cables has to be spliced and connected to a junction box or something.

I guess it would be running anotjer yellow cable out of that box. Into a junction. Then attach whichever room cable.


Would that work or does the signal still need to go through the router in the living room?

[benyl]

Everything you need comes in the boxes.

Covid fucked me over as paid double for a lot of components cause things were out of stock.

I went nuts and did this:

[The_Rural_Juror]

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How many extra fans should I order?

The correct answer is 20ft of LEDs.

This is probably a separate networking question.
I have wiring in the walls for my Condo. The main wiring hub is in a wall in my bedroom. This is where the internet comes in. It plugs into a box.

In the living room I have the internet router/modem thing behind my TV. Wiring comes out of the wall, into the modem, Modem hardwire into the TV.

I have a socket in my spare room. Im assuming I would need to get another box to wire from my wall and into my PC? What would I need?

You can go wireless. Be a ubiquiti whore like killramos.

[Kobe]

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This is the bedroom where the internet comes in.
The current connection leads to living room where it connects to the router.

In the bedroom, I think one of the black cables has to be spliced and connected to a junction box or something.

I guess it would be running anotjer yellow cable out of that box. Into a junction. Then attach whichever room cable.


Would that work or does the signal still need to go through the router in the living room?

It should work, that first photo shows your Cat 5 cable, it can be split (Where the white small box is it goes into) or you can split it upstairs whichever works better for you. (you will have 2 places for the cables to go (the main one from your basement) and a free slot as well.

If you split it before though it won't be able to get wifi (it will come from the router) if i'm looking at it correctly.

Where is the PC located? you just buy one of those splitter things which i posted (on amazon for $35 or can get it cheaper)

Looks like Telus?

[jwslam]

Has nobody asked what games this guy is playing yet?

[The_Rural_Juror]

We just assumed it was VR porn.

[jwslam]

Dang. That eXtrAslOw onlyfans got fancy fast...

[cyra1ax]

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Dang. That eXtrAslOw onlyfans got fancy fast...

WTF?
First I find out yesterday afternoon that frulling has an OF, now ES has an OF, what's next, rage2 has an OF?!

[BigDL]

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Hijack.. why does the 9600k perform better than the 3600x? I though Ryzen was supposed to be better? Can get the i5 right now for $270.
https://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/MX73774.

Single threaded applications it will do a better, however in the long run if you are keeping your computer for a while the extra threads from SMT will help out a lot, especially when multitasking. Biggest reason my i5 2500k had to be replaced.

Another thing was previously and at regular price the 3600 and 3600x was in a really good spot. Solid performance for the price.

But at $90 off right now that is a pretty good deal though. However, the only upgrade path from there in the future would be another 9xxx series and they will probably keep their price up for a while on the used market as it is the last of the processors compatible with that socket. With the 3600/x there is a lot of options for future upgrades

[zechs]

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I thought about building and I have watched a ton of build videos. I am concerned with the things I need (ie anti static kit, cables etc) But this is such a dumb ass question, do the parts come with cables and screws? I have noticed none of the the build videos I watch don't mention this.

I've always upgraded my pc's over the years or bought someone else's used gaming rig, but earlier this year in January, I built a brand new rig from the ground up.

It is a rewarding experience, but also a pain. If you are using anything smaller than a fullsize tower, I found routing and wiring to be a bit tiring trying to get things perfect.

There was also a lot of back and forth, I have noctua fans everywhere now as any others I found too loud and had to return. Luckily, 100% of my build was from memex, so swapping/returning/compatibility issues were easily resolved.

Most everything is included, but you will want a high quality phillips screwdriver (or even better, multiple sizes). You also may need some adapter cables depending on the power supply you buy, as well as depending on the drives you run. All of that stuff is in stock at memex though. You do not NEED antistatic kits and anything else, certainly nice to have, but I've never shocked a PC part to the point of damage. They have built in circuitry to handle those events which is very robust nowadays.

I probably spent more time benchmarking and building cpu/gpu/case fan curves to keep temps good while minimizing noise versus the overall build.

Make sure to use a high quality thermal paste. I had memex install the 3600 and stock fan on the board, while handy, regretted it instantly with bad temperatures.

The rig is now silent after buying a AIO 280mm cooler that I put noctua fans on. 3600 and a Vega 56, works flawlessly (vega 56 was a new purchase back in 2019 that I didn't get around to installing). I still have not seen a need for more than 16gb of ram, and if you want to get really crazy, there are some good youtube channels and videos about how to optimize ram settings.

Use https://ca.pcpartpicker.com to source all your parts and watch for deals. I got everything at rock bottom prices, and memex will price match.

[Mitsu3000gt]

If you are going to get a separate paste, this stuff wins all the objective testing:

https://www.amazon.ca/Thermal-Grizzl...e-b06387f8bcf1

[cyra1ax]

Watch this for what NOT to do while building a PC.

[msommers]

Made it through 5 seconds of that garbage. Yikes