TonyTigers PC Build

[Mitsu3000gt]

The Verge is the last place anyone should be going for any reviews or information. It seems like they hire literally anyone to be the resident "specialist" on whatever it is they are trying to promote at the time. If you watch any of their reviews or read any of their articles, you can tell their "expertise" is extremely shallow and they talk like all they have done is quickly scanned the marketing materials of whatever it is they are reviewing.

Their reaction to that PC build video also could not have been worse - classic Streisand effect. Also, how did nobody else at Verge watch that video before it was posted and catch that disaster. I find it all to be very strange.

At least now there are some great memes about it haha - many involving the absurd amount of thermal paste used.

[The_Rural_Juror]

What's up with using Chinese ear wax remover tools to spread thermal paste? I was always of the single point method.

[Mitsu3000gt]

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What's up with using Chinese ear wax remover tools to spread thermal paste? I was always of the single point method.

The best method, objectively, is a thinly spread layer. Good compounds like Kryonaut come with a tool for this similar to a miniature spatula. That method guarantees complete coverage and leaves no room for error if the "blob" or "X" or whatever you made with the paste doesn't spread as planned when the cooler is screwed down. That being said, there often isn't huge differences in thermals between the various methods, unless you use way too much - that is the worst thing you can do. Worse yet, some CPUs have exposed transistors right beside the CPU on the die (i.e. Skylake-X), so if any excess conductive material spills out due to over application, you will wreck your CPU (more of an issue with liquid metals).

Your CPU IHS and the bottom of your chosen cooler are not 100% flat, that is the reason for the paste. The goal is simply to fill in those gaps to bring the contact between those two plates as close to 100% as possible.

[nzwasp]

I will build it for you if no one else has offered. Also I have a USB DVD player you can borrow to put all your dvds on your pc.

[The_Rural_Juror]

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I will build it for you if no one else has offered. Also I have a USB DVD player you can borrow to put all your dvds on your pc.

Let's see your thermal paste technique first.

[nzwasp]

I just put a glove on and use my finger.

[tonytiger55]

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It should work, that first photo shows your Cat 5 cable, it can be split (Where the white small box is it goes into) or you can split it upstairs whichever works better for you. (you will have 2 places for the cables to go (the main one from your basement) and a free slot as well.

If you split it before though it won't be able to get wifi (it will come from the router) if i'm looking at it correctly.

Where is the PC located? you just buy one of those splitter things which i posted (on amazon for $35 or can get it cheaper)

Looks like Telus?

I ended up buying a crimpler tool and a bag of cat 5 ends. After a few youtube vids I am now a expert.
I have four Cat5 outlets in my condo. Yet there were 6-7 wires(?). I hve no idea where the others go. It was a process of elimination in working out which cable went to my office. I then moved my router (from the living room) to the modem area pictured above and cleaned up the wiring. I have a hardwire to my office now.

I went to Memory express and got the parts list. I will probably order later this week. Prime day is two weeks away... its making me scratch my head now.
Also what is wrong with memory express adding the stock cooler to the cpu? They said they do that for me for free.

[The_Rural_Juror]

Aren't you using an after market cooler? I suppose you could mount an after market cooler over the stock cooler to have double the cooling. I don't know if your case is savage enough for that truck though. If not, memex can recommend you a totally savage case.

[tonytiger55]

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Aren't you using an after market cooler? I suppose you could mount an after market cooler over the stock cooler to have double the cooling. I don't know if your case is savage enough for that truck though. If not, memex can recommend you a totally savage case.

I decided to go stock for now.

[The_Rural_Juror]

That's totally not savage at all.

[dirtsniffer]

If you're going to overclock you may as well just get the cooler noe

[The_Rural_Juror]

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I just put a glove on and use my finger.

I use my tongue.

[zechs]

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Also what is wrong with memory express adding the stock cooler to the cpu? They said they do that for me for free.

They use the cheap thermal compound. On top of that, the stock cooler is loud as hell.

Highly suggest a coolermaster hyper evo 12 at minimum. They are so cheap, and for anything besides max overclocking, are tough to beat.

[The_Rural_Juror]

I bought my AIO purely for the LEDs. Would totally switch to a Noctua now that I am grown up.

[Mitsu3000gt]

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I went to Memory express and got the parts list. I will probably order later this week. Prime day is two weeks away... its making me scratch my head now.
Also what is wrong with memory express adding the stock cooler to the cpu? They said they do that for me for free.

1) Make sure you use pcpartpicker and give them a list of price beats. Memex prices are often the worst.

2) If you let them mount your cooler, you will almost certainly have worse thermals.

AMD actually includes thermal paste with their stock coolers, but what you want is good paste like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. It's very cheap and makes a significant difference.

[tonytiger55]

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1) Make sure you use pcpartpicker and give them a list of price beats. Memex prices are often the worst.

2) If you let them mount your cooler, you will almost certainly have worse thermals.

AMD actually includes thermal paste with their stock coolers, but what you want is good paste like Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut. It's very cheap and makes a significant difference.

I used partpicker. There was a small difference. I mean there were some savings. One Memx was cheaper. But thak for the tip. I'l get them to match.
That being said, I had a look and saw a Memx had a combo deal (CPU and MB):
AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 Processor Bundle w/ ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Motherboard. I save around $70 going with that motherboard instead. That MB decent?
or up the CPU for this deal combo:
AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600XT Processor Bundle w/ ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (Wi-Fi) Motherboard.

As for the thermal compound. Thanks for that link. But I dont want to order from Amazon and wait. Are the Cooler Master thermal paste or any others at Memx decent? I'd just rather get everything there in one go.

I still am trying to wrap my head around the graphic cards. The GeForce RTX 2060 OC 6GB PCI-E w/ HDMI, Triple DP is on sale there, it would cost me a extra $20. Worth it?

[pheoxs]

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I used partpicker. There was a small difference. I mean there were some savings. One Memx was cheaper. But thak for the tip. I'l get them to match.
That being said, I had a look and saw a Memx had a combo deal (CPU and MB):
AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 Processor Bundle w/ ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Motherboard. I save around $70 going with that motherboard instead. That MB decent?
or up the CPU for this deal combo:
AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600XT Processor Bundle w/ ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (Wi-Fi) Motherboard.

As for the thermal compound. Thanks for that link. But I dont want to order from Amazon and wait. Are the Cooler Master thermal paste or any others at Memx decent? I'd just rather get everything there in one go.

I still am trying to wrap my head around the graphic cards. The GeForce RTX 2060 OC 6GB PCI-E w/ HDMI, Triple DP is on sale there, it would cost me a extra $20. Worth it?

The next gen of Ryzen is being unveiled October 8th and will likely be out almost right after... I'd just hold off 2 weeks and see what happens.

[zechs]

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I used partpicker. There was a small difference. I mean there were some savings. One Memx was cheaper. But thak for the tip. I'l get them to match.
That being said, I had a look and saw a Memx had a combo deal (CPU and MB):
AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 Processor Bundle w/ ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Motherboard. I save around $70 going with that motherboard instead. That MB decent?
or up the CPU for this deal combo:
AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600XT Processor Bundle w/ ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (Wi-Fi) Motherboard.

As for the thermal compound. Thanks for that link. But I dont want to order from Amazon and wait. Are the Cooler Master thermal paste or any others at Memx decent? I'd just rather get everything there in one go.

I still am trying to wrap my head around the graphic cards. The GeForce RTX 2060 OC 6GB PCI-E w/ HDMI, Triple DP is on sale there, it would cost me a extra $20. Worth it?

Unless there are bad reviews of a board, they are all mostly good nowadays. Either the TUF or STRIX lines are good.

I would not waste money on a 3600XT. Get a 3600, undervolt, and overclock it a bit if you care. CPU's are so understressed for gaming nowadays, throw more money at a GPU IMO.

Thermal compound, certain types of Coolermaster compound is better than others. Its confusing as fuck. Pheoxs is correct, grizzly is the best. Just order it now with next day shipping off amazon, problem solved.

I would seriously hold off on GPU until the ampere 3060 is announced. I would not buy a 2060 at this time. If you are jonesing to play a game, buy a dirt cheap used 1060 to get you by while you wait.

[Mitsu3000gt]

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I used partpicker. There was a small difference. I mean there were some savings. One Memx was cheaper. But thak for the tip. I'l get them to match.
That being said, I had a look and saw a Memx had a combo deal (CPU and MB):
AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600 Processor Bundle w/ ASUS ROG Strix B550-F Motherboard. I save around $70 going with that motherboard instead. That MB decent?
or up the CPU for this deal combo:
AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600XT Processor Bundle w/ ASUS TUF GAMING B550M-PLUS (Wi-Fi) Motherboard.

As for the thermal compound. Thanks for that link. But I dont want to order from Amazon and wait. Are the Cooler Master thermal paste or any others at Memx decent? I'd just rather get everything there in one go.

I still am trying to wrap my head around the graphic cards. The GeForce RTX 2060 OC 6GB PCI-E w/ HDMI, Triple DP is on sale there, it would cost me a extra $20. Worth it?

I still stand by what I said in my first post that you really should wait a month on all of this if at all possible. Ryzen 5000 (announced Oct 8, should be available soon after) is going to be a huge performance/dollar increase and it's just around the corner. Right now is arguably the worst possible time to build a PC because on the AMD side you have a huge generational performance bump only weeks away, and on the Intel side they are still recycling their 6 year old Skylake garbage, soon to be replaced by Rocket Lake in 2021. On the GPU side, Ampere just got announced and the 2XXX series of GPUs was the most underwhelming series in a long time. You would be essentially doubling down on all the lowest value items and locking them in for years, all for the sake of a matter of weeks.

Also, if you wait just a little bit longer, not only will you get the benefit of seeing what AMD's new GPUs bring to the table, but something like the 3060 might be available for you as well.

Waiting would also give you time to survey the Amazon Prime days, which it seemed like you wanted to do.

That ASUS B550 board isn't bad but the X570 TUF board I linked is better and also gets you the X570 chipset for a very good price (it's on sale too). I would stick with that one unless you are running over budget. The money you save not buying Windows from Memory Express pays for the better mobo and then some. PSU and Mobo are the two main areas you do not want to cheap out on.

Not sure how much of a rush you're in but you only would have to wait until Friday for the thermal compound from Amazon and that's a pretty important part of any build. It's the only one I use and wins all the objective testing that I have seen.

I think you are going to regret not waiting just a little bit longer when you see how much better everything is for the same price and in such a short amount of time. Unless this is an emergency I would strongly suggest not buying a PC right now.

[A790]

^^ this x 100.

Wait the 5 weeks. You'll regret it if you don't.