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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt View Post
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    That RAM would be fine. Timings aren't as good as this one: https://www.newegg.ca/g-skill-16gb-2...-858-_-Product

    But not worth an extra $100 unless you're really trying to optimize your build.
    I picked up two packs of this gskill for my 5900. The quality feels super premium including the software.
    If your looking to buy this memx has it for a bit cheaper then newegg.


    Also what king of temps are you guys getting on your 5 series while gaming?
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    I've been using the same 850w semi-modular PSU for my last 3 builds.
    Been using the same case for ~ 9 years.
    I pretty much refresh my PC in batches.
    You have to replace the cpu/mobo/ram at the same time, but you can reuse all the old parts, like HDD, GPU, PSU, etc. Then you can add on a new SSD/NVME here or there, upgrade your GPU whenever you want, etc etc.
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    That's definitely more encouraging them. I have a Corsair HX750 which looks to be suitable still to run a 3080 whenever that is in stock again.

    I do want a smaller case and fortunately those aren't very expensive. Looking at the Phantek 360A or 400A, they look very similar except the cheaper one can accommodate a top mount radiator...
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    Quote Originally Posted by scboss View Post
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    I picked up two packs of this gskill for my 5900. The quality feels super premium including the software.
    If your looking to buy this memx has it for a bit cheaper then newegg.


    Also what king of temps are you guys getting on your 5 series while gaming?
    I agree - quality and performance seems to be excellent. It is also Samsung B-die so you have the best available platform for compatibility or any future overclocking endeavors. The similar 16-19-19 kit is not B-die and it's hardly any cheaper. Plug & play with XMP as well. I haven't been using it for a super long time but I don't anticipate any issues. I was using very similar RAM for the last ~5 years as well. I couldn't care less about RGB but I don't think they offer any other variants.

    As for CPU temps, I have a 5950X and when playing COD/Warzone average temps are usually in the 60's. The GPU is doing most of the heavy lifting anyway at 1440P. The 5950X will usually run cooler than other CPUs though because they are the highest binned silicon as AMD needs 2 perfect 8-core CCX's to make them. Cooling is a Noctua NH-D15 Chromax with Kryonaut thermal paste.

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    That's definitely more encouraging them. I have a Corsair HX750 which looks to be suitable still to run a 3080 whenever that is in stock again.

    I do want a smaller case and fortunately those aren't very expensive. Looking at the Phantek 360A or 400A, they look very similar except the cheaper one can accommodate a top mount radiator...
    That PSU will be more than enough for a 5900X and 3080. If it's still working I would use it in another build without a second thought. It also has a 10-year warranty.

    RE: top mount radiator, I never bother with water cooling because you need a 280mm+ Rad to outperform a good air cooler, they are usually louder, they offer no passive cooling should something ever fail without you noticing, and there is always the risk of a leak. They also don't last super long as permeation and corrosion are both issues over time - in theory you should be replacing your coolant every ~3-4 years or so but I don't know how many people actually bother. With an air cooler they last forever and you can easily replace a fan if it ever breaks. Also for people who leave their PC's on 24/7 or while on vacation I think air is a lot less stressful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
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    That's definitely more encouraging them. I have a Corsair HX750 which looks to be suitable still to run a 3080 whenever that is in stock again.

    I do want a smaller case and fortunately those aren't very expensive. Looking at the Phantek 360A or 400A, they look very similar except the cheaper one can accommodate a top mount radiator...
    It may not be small enough for you but I just transferred everything into a lian li mini. Super awesome because it can take a full atx board still and is very customizable. I think it was $150, only downside is you need your own fans.
    https://www.guru3d.com/articles-page...-review,9.html

    750 watt will only be cutting it close if you plan on overclocking. Also make sure to get an extra cable if your psu didn't come with three. Most sfx psu's only come with two.

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    As for CPU temps, I have a 5950X and when playing COD/Warzone average temps are usually in the 60's. The GPU is doing most of the heavy lifting anyway at 1440P. The 5950X will usually run cooler than other CPUs though because they are the highest binned silicon as AMD needs 2 perfect 8-core CCX's to make them. Cooling is a Noctua NH-D15 Chromax with Kryonaut thermal paste.



    That PSU will be more than enough for a 5900X and 3080. If it's still working I would use it in another build without a second thought. It also has a 10-year warranty.

    RE: top mount radiator, I never bother with water cooling because you need a 280mm+ Rad to outperform a good air cooler, they are usually louder, they offer no passive cooling should something ever fail without you noticing, and there is always the risk of a leak. They also don't last super long as permeation and corrosion are both issues over time - in theory you should be replacing your coolant every ~3-4 years or so but I don't know how many people actually bother. With an air cooler they last forever and you can easily replace a fan if it ever breaks. Also for people who leave their PC's on 24/7 or while on vacation I think air is a lot less stressful.

    I tried running a mini itx board with my old 360 rad as an exhaust but it was hitting mid to high 80s, pretty sure it was from heat off my gpu. Ended up returning the mobo for the hero 8 and picking up a 240mm rad. I run the rad as a push/pull intake and it dropped the temps 10-15c

    It is actually crazy coming from a i7 9700k I gained 20fps in cod black ops. The boost clock on the 5900x is insane if your cooling can handle it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scboss View Post
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    I picked up two packs of this gskill for my 5900. The quality feels super premium including the software.
    If your looking to buy this memx has it for a bit cheaper then newegg.


    Also what king of temps are you guys getting on your 5 series while gaming?
    Different part numbers. The MemEX G.Skill has Timings / Latency 16-19-19-39
    whereas the one Mitsu3000gt linked on Newegg is Timing 16-16-16-36

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    Quote Originally Posted by scboss View Post
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    I tried running a mini itx board with my old 360 rad as an exhaust but it was hitting mid to high 80s, pretty sure it was from heat off my gpu. Ended up returning the mobo for the hero 8 and picking up a 240mm rad. I run the rad as a push/pull intake and it dropped the temps 10-15c

    It is actually crazy coming from a i7 9700k I gained 20fps in cod black ops. The boost clock on the 5900x is insane if your cooling can handle it.
    What boosts are you seeing and have you used the curve optimizer for an undervolt? The 5900X should respond even better to an undervolt. I am only using a value of -10 because the 5950X's come mostly optimized from the factory but you should be able to get -20 or -30 on some of not all cores on a 5900x. Should make a significant difference to your boost frequencies if you aren't already doing that. The curve optimizer goes hand in hand with PBO2 and I love that manually overclocking is basically a thing of the past now that AMD builds it in to work perfectly within cooling and power limits.

    I am seeing maximum boost of about 4.6GHz all core and ~5.2Ghz single core on my 5950X.

    And yeah, I got roughly the same 20fps boost in CoD (~15%) along with much more stable minimums. The game just runs better overall even in the menus, no more 2-3 second lag spikes when joining a game etc. And about 100W less power consumption despite now having double the cores haha. It's Photoshop and DaVinci Resolve where the gains are most noticeable, a lot of things are more than twice as fast which is game changing for me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by msommers View Post
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    So the more I'm putting a build list together, the more expensive I realize this is going to be lol

    Would anyone want the 5900x I have on hold at M/E?
    Ooh possibly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by S-FLY View Post
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    Different part numbers. The MemEX G.Skill has Timings / Latency 16-19-19-39
    whereas the one Mitsu3000gt linked on Newegg is Timing 16-16-16-36
    Oh snap I didn't notice that! Would there be a massive difference with this setup? I'm guessing better oc potential?

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    What boosts are you seeing and have you used the curve optimizer for an undervolt? The 5900X should respond even better to an undervolt. I am only using a value of -10 because the 5950X's come mostly optimized from the factory but you should be able to get -20 or -30 on some of not all cores on a 5900x. Should make a significant difference to your boost frequencies if you aren't already doing that. The curve optimizer goes hand in hand with PBO2 and I love that manually overclocking is basically a thing of the past now that AMD builds it in to work perfectly within cooling and power limits.

    I am seeing maximum boost of about 4.6GHz all core and ~5.2Ghz single core on my 5950X.
    I only used ryzen masters oc mode so far. I did some research
    after seeing what you achieved and undervolting is definitely the way to go. EDIT( i was already over on single core) From what I've seen it can go over 4.8. I'm gonna try this out tomorrow especially if it will give performance and potentially drop temps.
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    under volting -20, -30 vs stock

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    I average slightly higher MHZ for multi core and a higher single core while undervolting. Weird thing is in game actually suffered about 10% even though single core are higher at -30. Any idea why? -20 seems like sweet spot for temps/performance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by scboss View Post
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    under volting -20, -30 vs stock

    I average slightly higher MHZ for multi core and a higher single core while undervolting. Weird thing is in game actually suffered about 10% even though single core are higher at -30. Any idea why? -20 seems like sweet spot for temps/performance.
    Have you stress tested it? It's possible that certain cores didn't like the undervolt if you applied it globally, and you can go in and individually apply the curve optimized to each core one by one until you find the breaking point, then back off - that is a bit tedious though. For example some cores might be OK with -30 while others max out at -20.

    How controlled was you in-game testing? It's odd that it's worse as literally all it's doing is allowing PBO2 to boost higher due to slightly more thermal headroom. Can you try something easily repeatable like Cinebench? You should see measurably better performance after.

    You can also use the curve optimizer without PBO2 and the result will be the same clock speeds but better temperatures, but I think most people use it for performance haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitsu3000gt View Post
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    Have you stress tested it? It's possible that certain cores didn't like the undervolt if you applied it globally, and you can go in and individually apply the curve optimized to each core one by one until you find the breaking point, then back off - that is a bit tedious though. For example some cores might be OK with -30 while others max out at -20.

    How controlled was you in-game testing? It's odd that it's worse as literally all it's doing is allowing PBO2 to boost higher due to slightly more thermal headroom. Can you try something easily repeatable like Cinebench? You should see measurably better performance after.

    You can also use the curve optimizer without PBO2 and the result will be the same clock speeds but better temperatures, but I think most people use it for performance haha.
    That sounds very tedious hahaha
    Used Cinebench and -30 actually crashed the software so must have been to low. -25 seems like the sweet spot scores were 1571 vs 1619 single core and -9c (63c) while testing.
    These new amd chips are pretty solid!
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    Quote Originally Posted by scboss View Post
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    That sounds very tedious hahaha
    Used Cinebench and -30 actually crashed the software so must have been to low. -25 seems like the sweet spot scores were 1571 vs 1619 single core and -9c (63c) while testing.
    These new amd chips are pretty solid!
    Yeah I wouldn't want to manually set every single core unless I absolutely had to haha. That would be a lot of work.

    Glad you seemed to get it working - sounds like -30 was just a bit too spicy for some of the cores. More performance with lower temps, what more could you want. The 5900x and 5600X have the most headroom for the curve optimizer.
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    Ugh, called the NW Memex on Friday and they told me that their supply of 3080's has dropped, they're now only getting 1-2 cards per week. They've got people from October still waiting for a card. Debating on getting on a 6800XT list to try to maximize my chances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 94boosted View Post
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    Ugh, called the NW Memex on Friday and they told me that their supply of 3080's has dropped, they're now only getting 1-2 cards per week. They've got people from October still waiting for a card. Debating on getting on a 6800XT list to try to maximize my chances.
    I did the same 2 weeks ago. On the list for a 6800 xt now.

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    No real reason not to get a 6800XT instead unless you are buying it for creative work, then Nvidia has a significant lead still. Trades blows with a 3080 and is a full 20% faster in some titles (some titles the 3080 is also faster). 60% more VRAM too, so should anything change in the future, you'll probably be covered.

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    Wonder what the wait list is for the 6800 xt's compared to the 3080s.

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    Ive been trying to get a 6800XT reference card for months now. AMD drops about 3 units a week it seems, so far impossible to get.

    I really, really, dont want to pay scalper prices for AIB cards but damn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CompletelyNumb View Post
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    Ive been trying to get a 6800XT reference card for months now. AMD drops about 3 units a week it seems, so far impossible to get.

    I really, really, dont want to pay scalper prices for AIB cards but damn.
    Compusoft in Red Deer had a 6800 and 6800XT on the shelf when I was there a couple weeks ago. Don't remember pricing, but it wasn't outrageous.

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    Zzzzzz, still waiting for my 3060ti lol.

    Don't even know how many people are still in front of me at this point. Was 8th in line when I went on the waitlist.

    MemEx Dalhousie told me they stopped putting people on waitlists.

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