My 30 day challenge- quitting the erbs and mental health

[B.Spilner]

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So your body is used to certain habits and you've programmed it that way. If that is the case re-program and do something like 5 pushups or get a drink of water or something.

Thats my other issue. I drink so much water from having the "pasties" that I'm up every hour through out the night going to the washroom. The last 7 days I felt completely dehydrated, but now i seem to be leveled out, trying to get my water intake during the daytime instead of 6-10pm.

Week 2 should be interesting. I'd say week 1 was a success. Updating first post every morning still and will continue for the 30 days.

Also to add, I would usually feel completely dead after a sleep like last nights, but complete opposite, no yawning, full of energy, just got back from a run. Dare I say something is changing in me!!

[JRSC00LUDE]

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What, people like me that like to use evidence-based treatment vs. naturopathic bullshit that can't be proven? I don't give many fucks about criticism from someone I wouldn't put any value on getting advice from.

Like fuck, the guy is talking about addressing mental health and you tell him to go see a naturopath? And then people like ME make you laugh? Please. I've worked in healthcare long enough and seen plenty of naturopaths that are "practically trained like MD's" scam their "patients" and delay access to appropriate treatment.

I do agree re: your sentiment re: hormonal imbalance, though, which is why he should probably see a professional (doctor) to get that shit checked, then see a counselor or psychologist or something to help sort through the mental health side when he has a better understanding of the lay of the land.

The dude is using multiple substances as a coping mechanism. Yes, he needs to see someone and take care of himself. Someone qualified.

Well I agree that mental health requires different care for sure but I read his suggestion as thinking about physical contributing factors which seems reasonable as another area to look into.

My quack naturopath completely cured a chronic situation that my MD and a couple specialists had basically threw their hands up in the air about after 3 years of being able to do absolutely nothing. Like even find a cause for it. The quack basically listened and said "Oh, that's simple. It's caused by this. Let's fix it this way.". It took +/- 6 months of stuff to get a handle on, and it hasn't been an issue again (over 2 years now). So she out-doctored my real Doctors.

I'd never try to replace MD's with an ND (and neither would the quack suggest I do so) but I will certainly supplement their care with each other now. I certainly didn't get placebo fixed.

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This is a great thread OP, way to put yourself out there for some help and accountability. Keep it up dude!

[bjstare]

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2) Time change is coming. We are setting clocks ahead this coming weekend so your body could be out of whack again.

Spring ahead, fall back.

[firebane]

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Spring ahead, fall back.

Yah never get it right

[ThePenIsMightier]

Good for you, OP! It sounds like you were in a pretty bad state to be using so much and it's neat reading about your transformation.


Good for me selecting an Ignore List that got quite a workout in the last page, or so. LoL!

[Buster]

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Well I agree that mental health requires different care for sure but I read his suggestion as thinking about physical contributing factors which seems reasonable as another area to look into.

My quack naturopath completely cured a chronic situation that my MD and a couple specialists had basically threw their hands up in the air about after 3 years of being able to do absolutely nothing. Like even find a cause for it. The quack basically listened and said "Oh, that's simple. It's caused by this. Let's fix it this way.". It took +/- 6 months of stuff to get a handle on, and it hasn't been an issue again (over 2 years now). So she out-doctored my real Doctors.

I'd never try to replace MD's with an ND (and neither would the quack suggest I do so) but I will certainly supplement their care with each other now. I certainly didn't get placebo fixed.

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This is a great thread OP, way to put yourself out there for some help and accountability. Keep it up dude!

anal warts?

vaginal discharge?

AIDS?

the mystery of it all...

[JRSC00LUDE]

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anal warts?

vaginal discharge?

AIDS?

the mystery of it all...

Kind of a soup of all three really....

[legendboy]

As mentioned stay away from benzo's and sleeping pills. This to shall pass, hang in there. Maybe try cbd

[darthVWader]

All you Dr's are missing the obvious underlying condition EDMONTON!!!!

[B.Spilner]

Well friends, sad to stay that im stopping/postponing this experiment for the time being. Im feeling worse off then when I've started this. My sleeps have turned back into how they were. My attitude in the evenings is dull. And now that I've sort of shined the spotlight on myself im feeling more pressure which is making my brain think about this alot more.

Yesterday, day off so I kept myself busy the entire day, all good. But once the family came home I just feel like I'm not the same person. Although I know weed isn't the fix, I would rather smoke and have a smile on my face and laugh through out the night then become what I've become over the last couple days. I find myself a lot shorter with my son, im swearing more and im edgy. My sleep last night was great from 10-2. After that I woke up listened to 3 (1.5hrs) meditation podcasts which did absolutely nothing, I could hear my brain louder then the earphones. That sucks.

So at this time I think it's best for me to stop the experiment, smoke a fatty tonight when we get home. Do some laughing and smiling again. Let the world return to normal and let my body get a break again. Attack this from a professional angle instead of trying to fix it myself.

I will be contacting my personal Dr today, along with discussing with the wife on other options you all have provided. Ill keep the exercise up, glycine will be started tommorow in small doses, and camomile before bed.

I cant thank you guys enough for the support and suggestions. I'm glad I started this as even though this didn't work, its a step that needed to be taken.

I'll keep random updates thought out my process when I actually see some improvement its. Its clear my body is lacking something and I need to get to the root of the problem before quitting the erbs.

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As mentioned stay away from benzo's and sleeping pills. This to shall pass, hang in there. Maybe try cbd

Thanks, ive tried cbd and didn't notice a differnece. I won't touch sleeping pills as I noticed they wear off and after a couple tries they don't work anymore.

[ExtraSlow]

Best of luck. With stuff like this I do find it's hard to be in the spotlight and having people evaluating you every second.

The other suggestion is to find a process you can trust, and then trust it. Expect setbacks, but work that process and think long term.

[Disoblige]

Do you think it's too early to stop? Maybe you are going through some withdrawal that just became noticeable.

Why not give it another week or so and see what happens? Seems like a lot of good progress to go back to square one.

[firebane]

So the going gets tough and you bail?

I mean nothing by this but sounds like you were not in this to really try to make a difference.

No matter what it is that happens you always need time to adjust and reset and if your not willing to allow that to happen then you need to re-think do you really want to change?

I don't want to sound like I'm preaching or being one of those people, but perhaps if the home life suffers during these changes maybe the home life is part of the problem?

[ThePenIsMightier]

The chemicals are out of your system, already. It's not going to make you feel better other than you convincing yourself that it does.
Tackling your overall problem is a multi step process and you've already completed the first step. Let the anguish of anxiety motivate you to find a better treatment. You have already completed the first step! Be proud of that and keep moving ahead. Move forward.
You already know that weed wasn't working and isn't sustainable.

[Buster]

changing your lifestyle is hella hard

[firebane]

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changing your lifestyle is hella hard

Changing is easy.. staying motivated and driven to keep on the path is hard.

[legendboy]

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Thanks, ive tried cbd and didn't notice a differnece. I won't touch sleeping pills as I noticed they wear off and after a couple tries they don't work anymore.

Yep, I've been on them for 20 years and they definitely loose efficacy. I am seeing a shrink who is tapering me off benzo's and sleeping pills slowly. I am sick and tired of pills

[B.Spilner]

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So the going gets tough and you bail?

I mean nothing by this but sounds like you were not in this to really try to make a difference.

No matter what it is that happens you always need time to adjust and reset and if your not willing to allow that to happen then you need to re-think do you really want to change?

I don't want to sound like I'm preaching or being one of those people, but perhaps if the home life suffers during these changes maybe the home life is part of the problem?

Thanks man, but I've got my family to think about in this situation and not just me. Its pretty clear that anything I do wears off within a few days. So time to leave it to the professionals.

I am slowing down on the erbs as of now and still do plan on quitting soon. Just need to get everything else in order first.

[B.Spilner]

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Yep, I've been on them for 20 years and they definitely loose efficacy. I am seeing a shrink who is tapering me off benzo's and sleeping pills slowly. I am sick and tired of pills

Whats your plan after your off the meds? Did they work for you?

[ExtraSlow]

Totally understand about the difficulties on the home front. I had a stretch where I dreaded going home to be with my family. And that was certainly more about me than them. That's a rough place to be in.