2022 VW Golf R (Mk8)

[zipdoa]

So is the Mk4 R32 still the best .:R? I know chassis got significantly stiffer on the Mk5, and Mk6/7 makes more power for less money, but do they have more character? There's a million ways to skin a cat, it seems.

[RT16V]

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Equipment differences between a 7 and 8, are substantial. (You even mentioned it 7 to 7.5)

So best to compare the pricing between the 7.5 and 8. ($44 to $48)

Are you in a “concerns of 10 years ago” mindframe today?

I had a quick look at the 2019 MSRP for DSG with DAP compared to the calculator on the Mk8. It actually looks like barely $1K difference. Am I missing something?

[bjstare]

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So is the Mk4 R32 still the best .:R? I know chassis got significantly stiffer on the Mk5, and Mk6/7 makes more power for less money, but do they have more character? There's a million ways to skin a cat, it seems.

Wasn't Mk4 pretty universally regarded as a bit of a dog; slow with poor handling? I think nostalgia is the only thing that one has going for it.

[killramos]

My bet is if the Mkv wasn’t as good as it was the golf wouldn’t exist in this country just like every other hatch.

[Tik-Tok]

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Wasn't Mk4 pretty universally regarded as a bit of a dog; slow with poor handling? I think nostalgia is the only thing that one has going for it.

The 3.2 was always an underwhelming engine, regardless of the block reliability.

[flipstah]

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Wasn't Mk4 pretty universally regarded as a bit of a dog; slow with poor handling? I think nostalgia is the only thing that one has going for it.

It just sounded good to make fanboys cum hard.

MK5 had the weird bubble butt but interior aged well.

MK6 was boring and worked. I loved it.

[zipdoa]

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The 3.2 was always an underwhelming engine, regardless of the block reliability.

Pretty sure the VR6 failed at 80-120k, even after upgrading the heads

[heavyD]

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See I could have sworn the concern of 10 years ago was timing belts and water pumps on engines that needed $$$ replacements that was “fixed” by using timing chains that lasted the life of the engine (oops).

Water pumps have been an issue in the past but the most common failure by far is the thermostat housing leaking. It will happen to most EA888 engines over time and pretty early. Mine started leaking at 14k KM's but fortunately I caught it early when doing an oil change so I didn't require towing (saw more than a few in the Alberta MK7 facebook group sent away on flatbeds) as there was a national back order on them at the time and I had to wait a month for parts. I really hope they have fixed this issue with these new cars as I kind of lost a bit of confidence in VAG that they haven't been able to fix this given how long it's been going on for.

[dimi]

Price is always relative to its competitors (A35, S3 and Civic Type R), so I would say it’s very competitive, especially since it wipes the floor with them in most performance aspects. Is anyone complaining that a fwd type R is $46k?

I priced one out to $46,400 pre tax/freight (I hate sunroofs), what would you get instead in that price range?

[Buster]

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Price is always relative to its competitors (A35, S3 and Civic Type R), so I would say it’s very competitive, especially since it wipes the floor with them in most performance aspects. Is anyone complaining that a fwd type R is $46k?

I priced one out to $46,400 pre tax/freight (I hate sunroofs), what would you get instead in that price range?

I'm pretty sure price isn't the primary complaint of the Type R....

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Camaro 2SS

[cam_wmh]

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My bet is if the Mkv wasn’t as good as it was the golf wouldn’t exist in this country just like every other hatch.

Lol, this reads like a kid betting on his dad.

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So is the Mk4 R32 still the best .:R? I know chassis got significantly stiffer on the Mk5, and Mk6/7 makes more power for less money, but do they have more character? There's a million ways to skin a cat, it seems.

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Wasn't Mk4 pretty universally regarded as a bit of a dog; slow with poor handling? I think nostalgia is the only thing that one has going for it.

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The 3.2 was always an underwhelming engine, regardless of the block reliability.

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It just sounded good to make fanboys cum hard.

MK5 had the weird bubble butt but interior aged well.

MK6 was boring and worked. I loved it.

Yep. The EA390 is a torquey anchor, that sounds the business with nose heavy steering, especially compared to the 1.8 (4evah). Those old wookies got character, and are fun but need FI.

[94boosted]

Anyone manage to get one of these yet? I am tempted to pick up a white, DSG, non sunroof.

Do dealers have stock or is VW as badly affected by the chip shortage as other auto manufacturers?

Edit: Never mind, cars won't be landing until December at the earliest

[schocker]

GTI is now up on vw.ca also. Fully loaded R is only $6k more than the loaded GTI.
https://www.vw.ca/en/models/new-vehi...-gti-2022.html

[heavyD]

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GTI is now up on vw.ca also. Fully loaded R is only $6k more than the loaded GTI.
https://www.vw.ca/en/models/new-vehi...-gti-2022.html

It's strange how the GTI is so overpriced in Canada. Americans pick them up heavily discounted.

[Mitsu3000gt]

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GTI is now up on vw.ca also. Fully loaded R is only $6k more than the loaded GTI.
https://www.vw.ca/en/models/new-vehi...-gti-2022.html

It was similar for the previous gen, was it not? As soon as you start putting options on the GTI you might as well get the R. Total cost of ownership probably is lower on the R too.

[gpomp]

I know Beyond Ballers don't buy base models and only pay in cash but there is a big difference here.

Lease on a base GTI is $350/month vs $550/month for a Golf R.

[killramos]

Who is offering you a GTI lease for $350/mo?

A ‘21 GTI Autobahn is coming out to over $430/mo when I look even with minimal km and loyalty savings on a 60mo lease. The base base ‘22 with no options isn’t really any better at $410/mo.

A GTI is still a $40k vehicle otd

[ExtraSlow]

GTI for $350/mo, I'm in.

[Mitsu3000gt]

Cheapest GTI lease I could find when I was shopping was still over $400/mo for a 2-door base model 6MT. That was a while ago now though so it may have gotten cheaper.

It's somewhat rare to find vehicles over $30K with a lease under $400/mo though. Even something popular with an above average residual like a Honda CRV in $30K trim is still ~$400/mo for 48 months.