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    Wutsa stamp for?
    Originally posted by Thales of Miletus

    If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
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    fact.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    you guys must all be at producers or upstream companies the way you're talking about this stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Wutsa stamp for?
    Approving invoices.
    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age."

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Wutsa stamp for?
    Exactly. If this is real, I got a feeling there's some hoops that were not jumped through.
    Burning sour gas to generate possibly >1MW of power goes from marginal concept to commissioned in 6 months?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    Exactly. If this is real, I got a feeling there's some hoops that were not jumped through.
    Burning sour gas to generate possibly >1MW of power goes from marginal concept to commissioned in 6 months?
    Or we aren't privy to the inner workings or homework that was done before or during the beyond posting? Unless this is a Chinese run seed company who says fuck it, then maybe that's the story . From my last trip around Medicine Hat it actually looks like there are a few of these farms up and running so I would think there is at least some form of trail beaten into the bush to follow.
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    ...Last thing I want is someone reading my posts and losing their cock over it...
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    Meh, they all look like Jackie Chan to me
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    I'm generally cute.

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    I’m not making any insinuations things were done incorrectly.

    I maintain my original skepticisms but they are irrelevant at this point.
    Originally posted by Thales of Miletus

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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Hi guys,

    Just an update on this. Actually went and did it. Still waiting on the Turbine guys to fix some of their electrical issues before we can fire up. 1% Sour. Fingers crossed.

    Will come back to post again once it's purring.

    https://imgur.com/a/oMglqId

    Got another 1.5 MW of load to deploy, containers being built. Looking for gas + gen.
    Who are you using for your electrical design input and then subsequent execution (construction)? Are any of your team members familiar with the electrical code and industry best practices or are you relying solely on whoever is doing the work to know their stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JfuckinC View Post
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    you guys must all be at producers or upstream companies the way you're talking about this stuff
    I only know about the H2S as I literally recertified 3 days ago haha

    The rest of the stuff I have essentially no fucking clue about, but I'll build gas turbines all day long bro

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    Quote Originally Posted by haggis88 View Post
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    I only know about the H2S as I literally recertified 3 days ago haha

    The rest of the stuff I have essentially no fucking clue about, but I'll build gas turbines all day long bro
    haha, i didn't make that comment in a rude way i swear. Just the way it was being discussed, like how i would discuss anything to do with drilling. lol.

    I just draw pictures, building turbines sounds way more technical

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    Quote Originally Posted by JfuckinC View Post
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    haha, i didn't make that comment in a rude way i swear. Just the way it was being discussed, like how i would discuss anything to do with drilling. lol.

    I just draw pictures, building turbines sounds way more technical
    Lol i didn't take it that way

    I hate autocad and solidworks, those are way more technical than a few weird sized nuts and bolts and sharp wee blades

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    Quote Originally Posted by Disoblige View Post
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    Who are you using for your electrical design input and then subsequent execution (construction)? Are any of your team members familiar with the electrical code and industry best practices or are you relying solely on whoever is doing the work to know their stuff?
    Both. One team member is a friend of mine who worked up from pulling wire to ME, did everything in between (in my personal opinion he's quite brilliant). Now he does designs for O&G plants, and helping out with on my side of things (the miners) is his side hustle. He knows Code pretty dang good, but there are things he'd have to lookup that I'm sure the guys at Intertek would just know. I hear the next edition of CEC is coming out soon. I'm really excited (I like looking through the tables to check ampacities and see how much certain cable configurations would cost).

    Boots on the ground, got a guy who has been building sour sites for the better part of 30 years. His bread and butter is instrumentation and automation.

    Honestly the weakest part of the team is probably on the piping side. Look at this thread and how excited everyone is getting because of it. Unfortunately that part of the team is not under my jurisdiction, so I cannot tell them how and what to do. I'm a PMP by trade (construction), but I happen to not be 'the man' on this project because someone else has a bigger ego than I do haha.

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    Exactly. If this is real, I got a feeling there's some hoops that were not jumped through.
    Burning sour gas to generate possibly >1MW of power goes from marginal concept to commissioned in 6 months?
    My jurisdiction is not on the gas side for this particular project, but you are correct. From what I am observing, it is pretty rammy, and there are design considerations being engineered or solved on the fly. My domain is taking the electrons and making bitcoin.

    Too lazy to quote other things going on in the thread, but some info that might help guide some other discussion:
    - It's an oil well which I believe is around 2100psi at the wellhead (they have 6 tankers in and out everyday)
    - The turbines are being fed with two 2-in lines, one is for start gas (need >150psi for 90 secs without ignition) and the other line is for fuel gas
    - For start gas, because we can't vent and can't ignite, final decision was to pipe it back to the stack
    - Operating pressure for the turbines is 125 to 150 as I understand. They run at 22,000RPM
    - They are having issues with finding a coalescer that is sour spec
    - VLOOKUP is for plebs. It's 2021, you can use INDEX MATCH now
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    1% Sour is plenty sour.

    Not critically sour. But FAR from trace.
    Was interesting working on some oilsands mining sites and being told there is no h2s, only to find out there is. Lots of ruined equipment, and like you said, it doesn't take much to be an issue if its not designed for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    H2S is fun
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    Guess i should have chimed in earlier, all i work with is sour piping haha

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    If you think facility engineers are fun, just wait till you hang with the facilities engineers that specialize in sour piping, amirite?
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ExtraSlow View Post
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    If you think facility engineers are fun, just wait till you hang with the facilities engineers that specialize in sour piping, amirite?
    Rite boss.
    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age."

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    Has anyone here ever had to suit up to respond to an H2S incident?
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    Quote Originally Posted by themack89 View Post
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    Has anyone here ever had to suit up to respond to an H2S incident?
    Many times, thankfully never an injury, just a pipe blowout, sample taps left on, that kind of stuff.
    "The most merciful thing in the world, I think, is the inability of the human mind to correlate all its contents... some day the piecing together of dissociated knowledge will open up such terrifying vistas of reality, and of our frightful position therein, that we shall either go mad from the revelation or flee from the light into the peace and safety of a new Dark Age."

    -H.P. Lovecraft

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    Quote Originally Posted by themack89 View Post
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    Has anyone here ever had to suit up to respond to an H2S incident?
    Not myself, but we had an acid gas well leak right by our site. That was some scary shit.

    Make sure your pipe supports are designed well and stamped, and get a gyad dang vibration study done on all this stuff once you're running. This is assuming you built everything to a reasonable pipe spec

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