Who is getting the COVID-19 Vaccine?

[killramos]

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No that's the teacher ring.

What’s the difference? That nurses have even less education?

Would a ring pop be more appropriate?

[ExtraSlow]

Sexier anyway.

[Misterman]

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Define many. 1%? 10%?

Define health care folks. Doctors? Specialists? Nurses? Receptionists/admin staff? Paramedics? Holistic medicine advisors? David avocado Wolfe?

That's funny. I work with a guy who always mentions his wife working in education, like almost inferring she is a teacher. Turns out she is a janitor at the school.

[Team_Mclaren]

I dont know how a car works so i refuse to take the bus... is that the same thing?

[killramos]

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I dont know how a car works so i refuse to take the bus... is that the same thing?

I remember yearsssss back I had a friend in elementary school, mother couldn’t drive. She refused to allow him to come to a birthday party because we were going to drive on Deerfoot. I guess she just sat at home all day hearing news stories of car accidents on Deerfoot and had made up her mind.

Sounds like a pretty similar concept of people missing the forest for the trees here, in fact I’m pretty sure her name was Karen.

[ExtraSlow]

So I guess Alberta has the best health care system in Canada?

.Alberta, B.C. and P.E.I. have so far administered the most doses per capita among the provinces...

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/tru...lout-1.5861875

[dirtsniffer]

Worst rollout ever

[ExtraSlow]

Best ever you mean!

[dirtsniffer]

*thanks to nurses, twitter and the ndp

[FraserB]

So starting April 1st, we need to be doing 270k shots a day to meet Trudeau’s September target if 75% of people want it, that means there needs to be 1.9 million doses coming into the country every single week. If they can only manage half that, it puts us into February 2022

Which do we think will be stumbling block, vaccine supply or ability to administer that many doses?

[max_boost]

Just gonna take the risk and fly somewhere and get a free vax with my vacation.

[Misterman]

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Just gonna take the risk and fly somewhere and get a free vax with my vacation.

How you getting it free? Hook a beyond bro up. Going rate after Trudumps announcement is about 250$USD in Mexico.

I'm looking for the seedy Mexican entrepreneur who is smart enough to capitalize on this. Just get his own negative test done. Then scan it in to his computer. Go resort to resort charging 50$ to open Adobe and put your name and the date you need on it.

[max_boost]

All inclusive!! Lol jk

At the rate we are going, things will be back to normal in time for beyond 20 year party May 2022

[pheoxs]

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So starting April 1st, we need to be doing 270k shots a day to meet Trudeau’s September target if 75% of people want it, that means there needs to be 1.9 million doses coming into the country every single week. If they can only manage half that, it puts us into February 2022

Which do we think will be stumbling block, vaccine supply or ability to administer that many doses?

Supply for sure. As soon as we start doing general population it can be done through pharmacies which already do flu shots no problem.

The Pfizer vaccine is good for 5 days in a regular fridge so no reason major cities cant just distribute it every day or so to various pharmacies. Then the upcoming other ones that don't need ultra cold storage can hit the rural areas easier.

270k a day sounds like a lot but that's 25k a day for AB, say 10k per day for Calgary. There's roughly a hundred pharmacies in Calgary (more actually) so that's only 100 per day per location .. not that bad tbh

[Xtrema]

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Worst rollout ever

I think they are holding out 2nd dose because they don't believe 2nd dose will arrive in time making the 1st kinda pointless.

https://covid19tracker.ca/vaccinationtracker.html

According to this, 45% of doses delivered has been administered.

[kertejud2]

For perspective sake, over a million flu vaccines were administered in just under a month in Alberta, so ~50,000 vaccines a day is the benchmark for what’s possible when the supply is available.

Administering doses is the main problem now (holding the second dose was their excuse for not meeting goals, but went against the rollout plan), but that does stem from the prioritization of vaccines. If we had 8M doses waiting and everybody could get one then things wouldn’t be so slow waiting for the eligible people to get to sites. So the supply is low that causes efficiency issues but we also aren’t getting them out as fast as needed or predicted (which would have had us max out doses already). As things ramp up, we should be running into the supply issue at least into March before seeing the increased availability from Pfizer and Moderna comes online. If we aren’t talking about supply slowing us down through Feb and March, it means the rollout isn’t happening fast enough.

[Buster]

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For perspective sake, over a million flu vaccines were administered in just under a month in Alberta, so ~50,000 vaccines a day is the benchmark for what’s possible when the supply is available.

Administering doses is the main problem now (holding the second dose was their excuse for not meeting goals, but went against the rollout plan), but that does stem from the prioritization of vaccines. If we had 8M doses waiting and everybody could get one then things wouldn’t be so slow waiting for the eligible people to get to sites. So the supply is low that causes efficiency issues but we also aren’t getting them out as fast as needed or predicted (which would have had us max out doses already). As things ramp up, we should be running into the supply issue at least into March before seeing the increased availability from Pfizer and Moderna comes online. If we aren’t talking about supply slowing us down through Feb and March, it means the rollout isn’t happening fast enough.

A lot of this comes down to what the North American data coming from AZ looks like - I'm pretty sure the Canadian and US regulators aren't all that excited about the data the UK used to license. But if the US data from AZ looks good, and the J+J data looks good in the next few weeks, I think we move quickly into a supply surplus.

Pharmacy can do 1 million vaccinations per month in Alberta.

[ExtraSlow]

JT is dissapointed.

[kertejud2]

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A lot of this comes down to what the North American data coming from AZ looks like - I'm pretty sure the Canadian and US regulators aren't all that excited about the data the UK used to license. But if the US data from AZ looks good, and the J+J data looks good in the next few weeks, I think we move quickly into a supply surplus.

Pharmacy can do 1 million vaccinations per month in Alberta.

UK is in the tough they need the AZ vaccine since they have so few secured orders of Moderna (with none coming until March). They went in so big with AZ it’s really bit them in the ass. They need to get it out there, pretty much regardless of effectiveness, if they want to have any kind of vaccination success in 2021.

So for that I’m more skeptical of AZ than maybe I should be. But we’ll see what the other data says. Give the AZ and JJ vaccines to the high school and university students, I guess.

[Buster]

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UK is in the tough they need the AZ vaccine since they have so few secured orders of Moderna (with none coming until March). They went in so big with AZ it’s really bit them in the ass. They need to get it out there, pretty much regardless of effectiveness, if they want to have any kind of vaccination success in 2021.

So for that I’m more skeptical of AZ than maybe I should be. But we’ll see what the other data says. Give the AZ and JJ vaccines to the high school and university students, I guess.

Exactly. I don't think people realize how important the US data from AZ is. Novovax is also in the background.

The Brits really did not do a good job of procurement. In the end Canada and the feds did a pretty good job. And I am not one to hand credit out to them easily.