Who is getting the COVID-19 Vaccine?

[msommers]

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Can’t the moderators ban all these anti vaxxer morons. More and more keep popping up in this thread.

Ignore is a great function

[kertejud2]

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Ok - I just gotta say, THIS is the kind of stuff the anti-vax crowd needs to bring to light if they want to be taken seriously. I could not find the original article on The Lancet (I didn't search long), but at least that's a legitimate, peer-reviewed publication and if this came from it, I would consider the study on the up and up. (The Guardian itself, not so much).

If you type "Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers" into Google, this is the first result:

Fact Check-Study did not find vaccinated healthcare workers carry 251 times the viral load of those who were unvaccinated

Many of the posts share an article (archive.ph/ltWYz) posted by the anti-vaccine campaign group Children’s Health Defense on Aug. 23, 2021 with the headline: “Study: Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers.” The subheading says the study found that “vaccinated individuals carry 251 times the load of COVID-19 viruses in their nostrils compared to the unvaccinated.”

This, however, was not the premise of the study. Rather, it sought to compare viral loads among workers with Delta variant vs previous variants of SARS-CoV-2.

The study discussed in the article is visible here as a preprint, which is an early-stage research paper that has not yet been peer-reviewed.

The paper does not conclude that fully vaccinated healthcare workers carry 251 times the viral load of the virus compared to unvaccinated healthcare workers. Rather, it concludes that “viral loads of breakthrough Delta variant infection cases were 251 times higher than those of cases infected with old strains detected between March-April 2020.”

It adds that it found no correlation between vaccine-induced neutralizing antibody levels, and viral loads or developing symptoms.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2PX1HH

[BerserkerCatSplat]

Quelle surprise.

[Disoblige]

Are we gonna start neg repping everyone who replies to Dumb and Dumber?

I got neg repped for replying to SportEL so... lol!

[The_Penguin]

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If you type "Fully Vaccinated Healthcare Workers Carry 251 Times Viral Load, Pose Threat to Unvaccinated Patients, Co-Workers" into Google, this is the first result:

Fact Check-Study did not find vaccinated healthcare workers carry 251 times the viral load of those who were unvaccinated







https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2PX1HH

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Yeah, post the link to the Lancet, not the sketchy site.

[SportEL]

There was a clarification in the article in the link, that I had not seen previously.

CLARIFICATION: The comparison of viral load between vaccinated and unvaccinated (pre-vaccine era) as reported in the Chau et al. 2021 Lancet preprint is between two different variants of SARS-CoV-2. Dr. McCullough states directly that samples were compared to those “from the pre-vaccination era of 2020.” Thus, differences between these two groups aren’t a result of vaccination status alone. The authors of the Chau et al. 2021 study in their rebuttal to our piece point out another preprint (Li et al. 2021) which reported a difference in viral load of ~1000 between patients infected with the Delta variant and patients infected with A/B. However, the vaccination status of the Delta variant patients in this preprint is not reported. Thus, no one here has done a direct comparison between unvaccinated Delta patients and unvaccinated A/B patients to determine the true difference in viral load. In two additional preprint scientific publications (Riemersma et al. 2021, Chia et al. 2021), comparable viral loads of the Delta variant of SARS-CoV-2 are reported among vaccinated and unvaccinated patients. However, this itself is an indictment of vaccine efficacy as both vaccinated and unvaccinated individuals possess the ability to spread the Delta variant. Simply stated, COVID vaccines have failed to stop transmission of SARS-CoV-2.

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To more compare the Delta strain among Vaxx'd and unvaxx'd, there are two pre-print studies discussed showing the vax'd and unvax'd have comparable viral loads.

Either way, Natural immunity is stronger than 2 doses of the vax, and admitted by the CDC. So either get Covid and recover and at the same time, treat Covid with Cheap and effective HCQ and Ivermectin, and promote healthy lifestyles and Vitamin and Mineral Immune boosters. Or risk the effects of ADE, and more mutant strains to form as a result of mass vaccination in high infection state, and other immediate and potential long-term effects of the vaxx.

Let people make their own Healthcare decisions and stop the stone-walling of alternative treatments, and let the Patient and Doctor decide.

[SportEL]

What is Viral Immune Escape? As Explained by Dr. Michael McDowell


-Vaccine induced antibodies will stand up and fight against the virus and so the virus is on the run. Once the virus gets on the run; Remember this virus is a virus that is specially, has gain of function properties, put it under pressure, it shifts, it changes it's clothes, it becomes a variant, and the variant cannot be stopped by the vaccine induced antibodies.

-Vaccine induced antibodies also shut down your innate immune system so the vaccine has vaccine induced antibodies that cannot stop a variant and variants can come straight through and infect those that are vaccinated. That is viral immune escape. And that says the vaxx'd are defenseless against variants. This is no longer a pandemic of Covid19, this is a Pandemic of variants, and there is something called recombination

-Why aren't our virologists telling us this? Recombination means a vaccinated host can be infected by more than one variant at one time

-Dr Peter Mccullough says they don't have enough letters in the Greek alphabet to name the variants, in fact there are already over 100 variants floating all over the globe

-If a vaxx'd host is infected, co-infected by more than one variant , the variants when they get inside, they mix and they change DNA and camouflage, and DNA recombination takes place and it produces a super variant, and if super variants are produced, nothing can stop them, and already they are saying, the latest variant is vaccine resistant, it's just the beginning

-Dr Geert Vanden Bossche warns, if we do not immediately stop mass vaccination campaigns all around the world, the world will experience an international catastrophe of mass mortality. I didn't say that, he did; the vaccinated are a threat to us all

More Here --> https://www.bitchute.com/video/uzxXseeYTne5/


Why should current Covid-19
vaccines not be used for mass
vaccination during a pandemic? - Geert Vanden Bosshe, PhD in Virology
--> https://mcusercontent.com/92561d6ded...en_Bossche.pdf

[ExtraSlow]

Glad the restrictions have bullied more people into getting the jab.

[redline]

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Glad the restrictions have bullied more people into getting the jab.

Sunday they were back down to Alberta norms …. I think run is over on the vax unless they clamp down harder

[jutes]

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Sunday they were back down to Alberta norms …. I think run is over on the vax unless they clamp down harder

Provincial travel restrictions for the unvaxed?

[killramos]

I’d rather we encourage the unvaccinated to leave the province lol.

Then not let them back in.

Can we buy them bus tickets to Vancouver island?

[ExtraSlow]

When I'm voted in as Mayor, my first cost saving action will be to cutt those bus tickets off at Kamloops. They aren't likely to make it back from there and it'll save us dozens of dollars per picket.

[killramos]

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When I'm voted in as Mayor, my first cost saving action will be to cutt those bus tickets off at Kamloops. They aren't likely to make it back from there and it'll save us dozens of dollars per picket.

It’s well worth it to put some water between us

Very expensive to cross water

[redline]

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I’d rather we encourage the unvaccinated to leave the province lol.

Then not let them back in.

Can we buy them bus tickets to Vancouver island?

Do we have an interprovincial bus service anymore ?

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Provincial travel restrictions for the unvaxed?

Grocery delivery only and they can’t leave the house.

[ExtraSlow]

Plus Bradley Cooper look-alike snipers.

[SportEL]

Project Veritas Strikes Again With it's 3rd Video in its Covid Vaxx Investigative Series Exposing 2 Johnson & Johnson officials, who argue Children do not need to take the Vaccine in part becasue of the Potential long-term side-effects

-J&J Exec- "It's a kid, you just don't do that, you know? Not something that's so unknown in terms of repercussions down the road, you know. ..Kids shouldn't get a fucking vaccine...J&J is like stepping in the best smelling pile of shit you could step in"

In response to trusting the media. .."In no capacity should we ever trust anything that they say."

J& Scientist: " Don't get the J&J vaxx, I didn't tell you though... It wouldn't make that much of a difference if children are unvaxxed for Covid..


The scientist also laughs about inconveniencing unvaxxd adults if they refuse to comply with mandates imposed upon them.

Inconvenience [the unvaccinated] to the point where it’s like, ‘I might as well just fucking do it [and take the COVID vaccine],’ you know what I’m saying? Like ‘I can’t go out of state,’ I can’t – ‘my grandma’s in Canada and I can’t visit her,’ you know what I’m saying? You can’t go to France unless you’re vaccinated -- you know you’ve just got to keep doing things like that where you’re almost like a second-grade citizen if you’re not vaccinated, but I know that’s awful.”



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[schurchill39]

I've got an acquaintance who's actual reasoning for not getting the vaccine is because everyone is telling him to. Some people's children

[finboy]

Turns out out the covid portpass app leaked private’s data, r/calgary is in meltdown mode, good lulz

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calga...each-1.6191749
https://www.reddit.com/r/Calgary/com...d_hundreds_of/

[ExtraSlow]

Bloody hell. Thast portpass app was basically presented as mandatory for entry into CSE events.

[finboy]

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Bloody hell. Thast portpass app was basically presented as mandatory for entry into CSE events.

Vote with your wallet, not your data