Who is getting the COVID-19 Vaccine?

[killramos]

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Experienced that in Hawaii last time I was there, I had no clue what pre-check was when I clicked for it. The security guard looked at me like I was pavlov’s moron of a dog when I took off my shoes and started pulling my electronics out of my bag.

I have found knowledge of the program varies significantly on either side of the border.

Be prepared to take it all off either way.

[ZenOps]

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/texas-...nned-1.6207561

Texas bans vaccine mandates. Freedom!

[ExtraSlow]

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I'm guessing this is to not confuse the CATSA workers, based on my experiences with most, I imagine there is a chart in their break room showing which shoe goes on which foot.

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[rage2]

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I'm guessing this is to not confuse the CATSA workers, based on my experiences with most, I imagine there is a chart in their break room showing which shoe goes on which foot.

The trusted traveler program (Canadian side) faq states that belts, shoes and light jackets stay on. YYC airport does not follow that properly, so it’s annoyingly confusing. 90% of the time they ask for everything to come off. I think it’s dependent if they actually have a trusted traveler screening line open, so only on really busy days to you get full advantage of it when they have that specific screening line available.

[finboy]

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The trusted traveler program (Canadian side) faq states that belts, shoes and light jackets stay on. YYC airport does not follow that properly, so it’s annoyingly confusing. 90% of the time they ask for everything to come off. I think it’s dependent if they actually have a trusted traveler screening line open, so only on really busy days to you get full advantage of it when they have that specific screening line available.

Now imagine every restaurant, stadium, theatre etc. have actual mask/passport guidelines vs what they have to apply as a minimum wage employee.

[ExtraSlow]

I think the BC vaccine passport discussion from AndyL and whoever else shows how well that goes.

[rage2]

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Now imagine every restaurant, stadium, theatre etc. have actual mask/passport guidelines vs what they have to apply as a minimum wage employee.

It’s hilariously bad. One restaurant demanded kids have ID. So I’m like ok lemme get pics of their passport. They sat us while waiting for the pics. They never followed up lol.

[finboy]

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It’s hilariously bad. One restaurant demanded kids have ID. So I’m like ok lemme get pics of their passport. They sat us while waiting for the pics. They never followed up lol.

A buddy tried to go to a Tim hortons, showed them his ab records, and license, then they asked him for a negative test from the last 72 hours. He went somewhere else for his coffee.

[killramos]

People are going to have LONG memories for that kind of BS

[Xtrema]

https://vac.yeg.dev/

Some dev in Edmonton wrote QR code scanner site before AHS. lol.

[16hypen3sp]

Update on my vax booking.

I got an email saying I can book. So I followed the link and signed myself up for tomorrow in Red Deer at the AHS vax site. I'll update you tomorrow. (First shot was Pf. second was mods, this shot should be mods as well.)

[finboy]

Interesting video highlighting Matt taibbi’s latest on the covid treatment pill. Essentially there migh have been delays on approval because some bureaucrats though it might hurt covid vaccination numbers



I’m totally in board with both or either as a solution for getting past covid, curious if the 100% must vax crowd on beyond would be fine with antivaxxers taking a pill that reduces symptoms (and possibly reduces healthcare burden up to 50%) as a middle ground solution. (Fully understanding that some of them will say hell no because it is a new pharmaceutical)

[jutes]

Too chickenshit to take a needle because they don’t want microchips but will be okay with a pill with “perfectly safe” medication.

[RawB8figure]

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Interesting video highlighting Matt taibbi’s latest on the covid treatment pill. Essentially there migh have been delays on approval because some bureaucrats though it might hurt covid vaccination numbers



I’m totally in board with both or either as a solution for getting past covid, curious if the 100% must vax crowd on beyond would be fine with antivaxxers taking a pill that reduces symptoms (and possibly reduces healthcare burden up to 50%) as a middle ground solution. (Fully understanding that some of them will say hell no because it is a new pharmaceutical)

Its just Ivermectin rebranded.

[finboy]

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Too chickenshit to take a needle because they don’t want microchips but will be okay with a pill with “perfectly safe” medication.

I don’t care why people make the choices they do, just the outcome

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Its just Ivermectin rebranded.

I’d still be interested in a wider scale study of ivermectin from a more reliable source. What we have so far is some copy/paste job which doctored results on one side, and the demonization of the entire drug as “lol horse dewormer.” If it turns out to be bunk, so be it, if it turns out to have some impact, one more tool in the workbench to solve the issue. I never understood the standpoint of “we should ONLY be exploring vaccines” that comes across from certain groups.

[RawB8figure]

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I’d still be interested in a wider scale study of ivermectin from a more reliable source. What we have so far is some copy/paste job which doctored results on one side, and the demonization of the entire drug as “lol horse dewormer.” If it turns out to be bunk, so be it, if it turns out to have some impact, one more tool in the workbench to solve the issue. I never understood the standpoint of “we should ONLY be exploring vaccines” that comes across from certain groups.

I agree with you, they should be looking at treatment options. I find it hard to believe they thought 100% of the population would get the vaccine that hasn't been fully tested.

[sabad66]

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Its just Ivermectin rebranded.

Not sure if you’re serious, but no it certainly isn’t.

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact...-idUSL1N2R32JP

[redline]

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I’d still be interested in a wider scale study of ivermectin from a more reliable source. What we have so far is some copy/paste job which doctored results on one side, and the demonization of the entire drug as “lol horse dewormer.” If it turns out to be bunk, so be it, if it turns out to have some impact, one more tool in the workbench to solve the issue. I never understood the standpoint of “we should ONLY be exploring vaccines” that comes across from certain groups.

there is a proper study being done now on Ivermectin, it will be a few months and we should have those answers.

On one hand the pill is a good thing, but why look at it as either or... why not both...

the vax is still going to prevent the spread which is what we need, having a something to deal with breakthrough and the anti-vaxxers is all good.

unless you go full authoritarian you will never get to 100% vax. No vax has ever gotten to 100%. but how political this has gotten is out of control and the ease in which misinformation is spread is a game changer.

[RawB8figure]

kind of serious. NIH is considering this as a potential antiviral treatment for covid 19. I would assume they are studying the human use versions, not the veterinarian version (horse paste).

second one down.
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...bles/table-2e/

NIH is currently conducting clinical trials.
https://www.covid19treatmentguidelin...py/ivermectin/

[TurboMedic]

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I appreciate the answers in good faith, I suspect the ethics component is where we don’t fully align as I side more so on the insurance side (business background) and you align on not voluntarily denying service (medical background). I’d be curious to hear your take on externalities (global vaccination and how stringent our travel considerations should be) in preventing future variants which would get us back to square one.

The nexus example is my nightmare scenario, I do not want to see security theatre like mask policy or passports stick around once our icu’s are safe. Sadly I don’t think most Canadians are aligned with this, the worst parts of our population (Reddit) cheer on masks forever, and I worry years of conditioning will create a security blanket for a not insignificant portion of our voting populous.

I'd definitely have to think on it a bit on the prevention of future variants. I think we are just in a high state of virus severity, and historically speaking that should naturally reduce by means of increased vaccination or natural acquired immunity to the nuisance point I made in an earlier post. I'm not sure what that timeline is but I still believe it to be longer than necessary because of the holdouts. If we can essentially snuff out the severe outcomes altogether that is win and there should be no issue accepting that as a regular risk as any other transmissible virus would be.

I agree entirely with the masking permanence being a concern. Its a thing that is being floated at my workplace as well, that we will never not wear masks as standard PPE. I definitely look forward to getting back to a place where expression and communication can be restored naturally and our risks are mitigated by means of internal protection vs. external.