Who is getting the COVID-19 Vaccine?

[jwslam]

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I think a more sensible policy would be tax.
If people do not want to get vaccinated and if they end up in hospital or ICU. Treat them. But give them a invoice after. If they die, the debit is still payable by the estate.
I think eventually AHS coverage for COVD may be become exempt for the unvaccinated.

Disagree. Pay up front or you don't get treated.
If they're dumb enough to not believe in our health care system that told them to get vaxxed, they don't deserve treatment they can't afford out of pocket.

[haggis88]

What do you think an average Covid ICU admittance would cost someone out-of-pocket?

[Disoblige]

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What do you think an average Covid ICU admittance would cost someone out-of-pocket?

On average, $73,000.

Look at the US, there is a reason why the benefits deductible is $6000 there.

[redline]

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https://www.health.harvard.edu/blog/...-2019050216562

This study is about drugs not vaccines …

[Buster]

Lol at you guys arguing with the unwashed masses lol

[Disoblige]

Replying to any jabby posts should result in a neg rep, starting now.
Especially if replying to SportEL does!

[msommers]

The argument of getting covid and being "better off" than a getting vaccine is a whole other level of intelligence. Giving the benefit that is indeed true, the alternative outcome is you die trying to get "stronger." The fact some people actually vote for option 2 is mindblowing.

[Misterman]

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Catching and spreading Covid isn’t the problem.

Being unvaccinated and getting so sick you are choking on your own fluids and needing a hospital to keep you alive is the problem.

Getting your shots almost completely eliminates the real problem. Focusing on testing was the solution a year ago when vaccines weren’t a thing.

Punish the unvaccinated. That’s the only card left to play at this point.

Well we aren't entirely sure about this. It would be more accurate to say that vaccines will eliminate the immediate problem of rising ICU numbers. However there is mounting evidence that vaccinating everyone regardless of status could be setting up another unnecessary variant wave. Not to mention the future healthcare strain from increased rates of Myocarditis and whatnot.

This is why it's silly for the pro-vax everyone crowd to apply the same dogmatic ignorant attitude as the anti-vax crowd. There is worthwhile debates to be having right now that nobody wants to address.

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Open for summer was a trade. Open for summer in exchange for getting a couple shots.

You are the one who didn’t do your part of the bargain. You are the fucking problem.

Cause needles are scary or something.

Anyone who gets covid and doesn't end up in hospital, is not doing any part by getting vaccinated. This vaccination percentage number is another meaningless statistic. Unless we have an actual way to rank people on whether they fit into the risk groups for covid, and then we can shoot for vaccinating 95% of them, then I personally don't care about about vaccination numbers. What value are people finding in shit talking people that have already had covid and are unvaccinated? Those people have zero effect on the ICU numbers, and ICU numbers are the only metric left to argue in regards to whether the government should be controlling everything we do or not.

[SKR]

I get a kick out of the idea that mandatory vaccines are bullshit like the smallpox vaccine wasn't a thing. I also get a kick out of booster shots being bullshit like tetanus isn't a thing.

I don't know why these deniers can't do the math on doing nothing to stop the spread of the disease, and things never going back to normal. It's two dots connected on a straight line.

[Disoblige]

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Anyone who gets covid and doesn't end up in hospital, is not doing any part by getting vaccinated. This vaccination percentage number is another meaningless statistic.

Agreed, especially since we know whoever gets Covid will or will not be in the ICU and for how long.

Oh wait.

[jabjab]

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Take a couple of shots to stop worrying about a pandemic yea.

I had completely forgotten about it until you and your buddies fucked it all up. It’s idiots like you who are the real pandemic.

Do us all a favour, don’t look both ways crossing the street.

That's not really a nice thing to say...

Anyways.. Idiots like you believe that it's the non vaccinated who have caused the 4th wave but it's the whole open for summer shit.

I should be worried about people like you who think getting vacinnated makes them immune to getting and spreading covid.

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Jabber, even if the numbers you posted are correct, and I haven't checked them, you are mathing them wrong. Like, wildly wrong.

Why not tell me how to accurately present the numbers then? Maybe tell Harvard their study is shit too...

[Buster]

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Well we aren't entirely sure about this. It would be more accurate to say that vaccines will eliminate the immediate problem of rising ICU numbers. However there is mounting evidence that vaccinating everyone regardless of status could be setting up another unnecessary variant wave. Not to mention the future healthcare strain from increased rates of Myocarditis and whatnot.

This is why it's silly for the pro-vax everyone crowd to apply the same dogmatic ignorant attitude as the anti-vax crowd. There is worthwhile debates to be having right now that nobody wants to address.






Anyone who gets covid and doesn't end up in hospital, is not doing any part by getting vaccinated. This vaccination percentage number is another meaningless statistic. Unless we have an actual way to rank people on whether they fit into the risk groups for covid, and then we can shoot for vaccinating 95% of them, then I personally don't care about about vaccination numbers. What value are people finding in shit talking people that have already had covid and are unvaccinated? Those people have zero effect on the ICU numbers, and ICU numbers are the only metric left to argue in regards to whether the government should be controlling everything we do or not.

The solution has and continues to be: no vaccine, no ICU. Canadians are too pussy to do it though

[jabjab]

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The solution has and continues to be: no vaccine, no ICU. Canadians are too pussy to do it though

I agree with this and the earlier comments about people who are not vacinnated and not in the ICU will not help the numbers.

Again, I got covid with asthma and I was able to self medicate. After recovering I slept in the same bed with someone who was vaccinated and HAD covid. I didn't catch it. What's the point of me getting vacinnated? On the CDC website it states that getting a virus and your body developing antibodies is more effective than a vacinne. Look it up on the CDC website.

[ThePenIsMightier]

LoL CDC!!

[Disoblige]

I love it when people are too dumb to comprehend the data they present. Then they turn it around and try to make others present the data to them instead

The term ignorance is bliss is simply too true.

[jabjab]

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LoL CDC!!

LOL listen to Kenny and Gov't, much more reliable. Open for summer! Yay

[Buster]

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I agree with this and the earlier comments about people who are not vacinnated and not in the ICU will not help the numbers.

Again, I got covid with asthma and I was able to self medicate. After recovering I slept in the same bed with someone who was vaccinated and HAD covid. I didn't catch it. What's the point of me getting vacinnated? On the CDC website it states that getting a virus and your body developing antibodies is more effective than a vacinne. Look it up on the CDC website.

Vaccination plus previous infection is better than just previous infection.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Vaccination plus previous infection is better than just previous infection.

Yeah, but you're forgetting about that time I shoplifted in Grade-5 and got away with it. I also smoked a cigarette that summer and didn't die.
So, it's ok. I'm immune.

[Misterman]

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Agreed, especially since we know whoever gets Covid will or will not be in the ICU and for how long.

Oh wait.

Yeah I suppose it's tricky when we have no data about who ends up in ICU................. Oh wait.

[Misterman]

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LoL CDC!!

There's quite a number of studies confirming this now.

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Vaccination plus previous infection is better than just previous infection.

And then this is the other side of the argument. However, "better" becomes quite subjective when you factor the potential trade offs involved with being vaccinated. And how good do we need things to be? If the idea is to not be in the ICU, then "better" becomes moot when prior infection already provides that protection.