Paying back CERB

[killramos]

Maybe I just associate with (am related to) shitty people. But unfortunately my anecdotal experience is that CERB fraud is rampant, and I would love to see some real punishment doled out.

[flipstah]

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It will cost more than $5K to get back the $5K.

Just let it be. Anyone that look sus, just tagged them for audit.

What about wage garnishing?

[tirebob]

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Maybe I just associate with (am related to) shitty people. But unfortunately my anecdotal experience is that CERB fraud is rampant, and I would love to see some real punishment doled out.

I agree 100% actually. At the very least if you intentionally scammed the system, you should have to pay hefty fines say to the tune of double the money taken or some shit, and not something you can claim personal bankruptcy to avoid. It should have to come in the form of full payback up front and either the fine as well or have forced wage garnishing until the full amount is paid back.

[flipstah]

Death and taxes.

[jutes]

What's the penalty for not paying back CERB or whatever CRA bills, does big brother come to your door and arrest you?

[ercchry]

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What's the penalty for not paying back CERB or whatever CRA bills, does big brother come to your door and arrest you?

The most real would be if you had a big old bill showing on your NOA then you’re not getting any decent rate loan without proceeds going to pay it back.

[Sentry]

No lol, maybe if you owe millions. I know someone who had 60k in tax debt racked up after a bunch of years and they just called and set up a payment plan on his terms. ("I can only afford to pay 80 bucks a month forever" "Ok sounds good sir")

[Xtrema]

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What's the penalty for not paying back CERB or whatever CRA bills, does big brother come to your door and arrest you?

That askes nicely, just like public health orders.

[M.alex]

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Also disagree. This is exactly what CERB was for, like it or not that couple with 200k income still has bills to pay, if they are laid off and have half their income they still have those bills in all likelihood. If that CERB money means their mortgages still got paid this year, and stabilizes banking and the housing markets, that is literally the intention of the money.

Don’t worry, the other half in the couple still paid more than enough in taxes this year to offset what the household got from CERB.

CERB isn’t supposed to be welfare for the poor, it’s bridge financing for people who lost their jobs due to government actions over the pandemic.

then they should have sold their house/assets/etc. and re-adjusted their life.

Fuck those lazy motherfuckers.

[Xtrema]

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then they should have sold their house/assets/etc. and re-adjusted their life.

Fuck those lazy motherfuckers.

In an ideal world, that's how it should go. But in reality, CMHC is holding the bag and banks are too big to fail. Hence CERB.

Our whole economy is based irresponsible spending.

[killramos]

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then they should have sold their house/assets/etc. and re-adjusted their life.

Fuck those lazy motherfuckers.

Government imposed problem. Government imposed solution.

As expected it all turned out to be shit.

The problem with taking a whole laissez faire stance to it in is quite a substantial amount of the economic despair was government imposed.

Unless you are suggesting everyone should live their lives as if the government plans to shut down the 80% economy on a whim. Starts to reek of why bothering with government at all at that point.

To refocus again, you don’t have to agree with CERB to understand its intended purpose and who it was intended for.

Don’t like CERB? Only one guy responsible so direct your disdain where it belongs.

[2Legit2Quit]

Pay it back for those who got 3-4x the amount they normally make in a year.

Otherwise I'll take a year of paying taxes off please to balance out being a non scumbag who pays their taxes.

[ZenOps]

Gotta play by the government rules. If the NHL says no white males allowed, those the rules. If California says you can't buy a combustion engine car, those the rules.

"No" is the word of 2020. Doesn't even matter if you are billionaire. https://www.nytimes.com/2020/10/23/n...ess-hotel.html

[eblend]

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If you didn't net $5000 in income on your side business then did you really need the $20,000 in cerb that you now need to repay? It seems ludicrous that someone who didn't meet the threshold was given 4 times what they made in the last year.

Sounds like a pretty sweet deal for those who barely worked or had next to no income to rake in 20k.

Ditto, my opinion exactly. All those people bitching on the news, so embarrassing, feel humiliated for these people. You didn't make 5k, and government gave you 20k....what the fuck did you expect? Go cry me a river.

[Disoblige]

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Maybe I just associate with (am related to) shitty people. But unfortunately my anecdotal experience is that CERB fraud is rampant, and I would love to see some real punishment doled out.

The group I know is in the middle, kinda.

They're lazy people who don't really want to put huge effort into finding a job so they collect CERB as long as they can. One of them doesn't even understand they need to pay taxes on it later, yikes. Pretty sure a lot of uneducated people out there in the same boat.

[killramos]

I just saw one of the CERB and tax fraudsters I know bragging about an 82” tv today on Facebook.

I ain’t no snitch, but damn it’s fun to think about.

[Disoblige]

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I just saw one of the CERB and tax fraudsters I know bragging about an 82” tv today on Facebook.

I ain’t no snitch, but damn it’s fun to think about.

Sounds like a dddouche.

[rage2]

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Sounds like a dddouche.

More like an idiot. Everyone knows the price to size sweetspot is 85”.

[suntan]

Yes the fraud is rampant. My accountant has been fielding questions such as:

"I applied for CERB twice and got it twice. Should I pay it back?"
"I'm a student and applied for CERB and got it. Should I pay it back?"
"I have job and applied for CERB and got it. Should I pay it back?"

[The_Rural_Juror]

I never applied, nor received, CERB. Should I pay it back?