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    Had a look through a few bottles.
    Amarones and barolos from the early 2010's
    California cabs, chianti, austrialian shiraz's from 2015
    Riojas, blends, south america, house wines from '17-'18

    All at different price point and all are unique. Easy enough to understand why there is different prices. Scarcity, yield, processing, time in cask, stainless vs osk, origin..

    could I tell the difference between every $20 pinot and a $50 version, probably not. But damn do I love pinots lately. Barely 1 or 2 at home right now.

    Interested in seeing some of the ballers collections and storage setups. Probably time for an wine drinkers mega thread.
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    Fun fact: A bottle of wine was considered one serving for one person at each meal.

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    Had a look through a few bottles.
    Amarones and barolos from the early 2010's
    California cabs, chianti, austrialian shiraz's from 2015
    Riojas, blends, south america, house wines from '17-'18

    All at different price point and all are unique. Easy enough to understand why there is different prices. Scarcity, yield, processing, time in cask, stainless vs osk, origin..

    could I tell the difference between every $20 pinot and a $50 version, probably not. But damn do I love pinots lately. Barely 1 or 2 at home right now.

    Interested in seeing some of the ballers collections and storage setups. Probably time for an wine drinkers mega thread.
    Isn’t wine supposed to be stored in cellars that are temperature controlled etc? Or is that hocus pocus thing?

    My knowledge of wine is that red goes with meat; white goes with fish and pasta


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    Isn’t wine supposed to be stored in cellars that are temperature controlled etc? Or is that hocus pocus thing?

    My knowledge of wine is that red goes with meat; white goes with fish and pasta
    I hear that's what they do in Aspen.
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    Isn’t wine supposed to be stored in cellars that are temperature controlled etc? Or is that hocus pocus thing?

    My knowledge of wine is that red goes with meat; white goes with fish and pasta
    This is true, though not as important if you aren't collecting for long periods. But if you have cellared wines that are 20 years old, it's probably a good idea to have them at 15-16C and stable.

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    Stable temp more important than cool temp according to my chat with the dude at willow park. But also most wines, particularly inexpensive wines, aren't really meant to be cellared. They won't improve with age.

    I try to have fewer than a dozen bottles hanging around.
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    I tried the red one once, it was as bad as expected.

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    I tried the red one once, it was as bad as expected.
    Well duh. Look how small the bottles are.
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    Stable temp more important than cool temp according to my chat with the dude at willow park. But also most wines, particularly inexpensive wines, aren't really meant to be cellared. They won't improve with age.

    I try to have fewer than a dozen bottles hanging around.
    I got it back down under 100...lol.

    I don't really plan on collecting/cellaring. My problem is I see/find more interesting wines than I drink. I have to increase my consumption.

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    I got it back down under 100...lol.

    I don't really plan on collecting/cellaring. My problem is I see/find more interesting wines than I drink. I have to increase my consumption.
    Sounds like a resolution to me
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    We have most of our wine in our basement cold room. Stays 10-15c depending on the season. No control as I do not live in Aspen. Maybe 6 bottles would considered worthy of 'cellaring', all big italian reds. Most are just waiting to be drank.
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    Sounds like a resolution to me
    Cant drink like I used to. Now I want to take a nap and sometimes get a bit of a headache, lol

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    I tried the red one once, it was as bad as expected.
    Haha it is funny. This sells at Costco for $8.99 and it is decent if you like Malbec. Crazy what a buck or two more can do to wine. Can say the same as we head into the teen $ mark too.

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    This is true, though not as important if you aren't collecting for long periods. But if you have cellared wines that are 20 years old, it's probably a good idea to have them at 15-16C and stable.
    I would think humidity would play a big factor here too... have had the opportunity to sample some older stuff that’s been kept just in basements on wine racks and those corks were almost completely eroded

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    So more seriously. This vivino app.

    Is that like a collection / cellar management app? A deals app? Review app? Some combo?
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    So more seriously. This vivino app.

    Is that like a collection / cellar management app? A deals app? Review app? Some combo?
    It's great. You take a photo of the bottle through the app at the store or wherever (ex: friend's house if you like the wine) and it pulls it up in the database with a rating, average price for the bottle and a bunch of reviews. It's like yelp for wine but more neat because it recognizes the bottle you take a pic of very well.

    I use it every single time I am shopping for wine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    So more seriously. This vivino app.

    Is that like a collection / cellar management app? A deals app? Review app? Some combo?
    It's also social media for wine people. We can also see each other's wines and waht we are drinking and reviewing.

    It also has the ability to track your inventory. The hardest part of that is remembering to click on a bottle when you drink it.

    But ya, the algorithm for recognizing the label is really good. You can also take a picture of a wine list at a restaurant and it will pop up ratings reviews and prices for the entire list.

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