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    People who don't have respiratory issues don't get how much it sucks below -10 for breathing. Need to wear a face covering to not have issues
    I feel ya, although i don't usually get issues until its about -20 unless I'm really exerting myself

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    Appears people in my area use a car starter and warm up for 20+ min as soon as it hits -5
    I bet they don't even notice a mpg difference.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr2mike View Post
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    Appears people in my area use a car starter and warm up for 20+ min as soon as it hits -5
    I bet they don't even notice a mpg difference.
    Are they not aware we're in a climate emergency??? All that idling is going to compound the amount of emergency we're in!!

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    Need to keep focused on the true enemy, wind. It’s actually quite nice out at -30 with dead calm air.


    Like summer, but different

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    I’m sitting at -6000 ft density altitude. Who wants to come drag race me? Only rwd open diffs allowed.
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    I have a welded diff AWD studded tire car, ain't about that slippery life. Especially when its minus 30 and the roads all glaze over.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darell_n View Post
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    I’m sitting at -6000 ft density altitude. Who wants to come drag race me? Only rwd open diffs allowed.
    Crazy, I just checked Springbank airport and DA’s were -1470ft at 4:00am. If I thought I could hook up with the Trackhawk, I’d go and do some dragy hits!
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    Quote Originally Posted by 90_Shelby View Post
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    Crazy, I just checked Springbank airport and DA’s were -1470ft at 4:00am. If I thought I could hook up with the Trackhawk, I’d go and do some dragy hits!
    Air resistance is a bitch at speed in these temps tho.
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    Up to -6184 now. 80 mph would probably tear all the trim off my truck. I wonder how far a stock vehicle could go before leaning out? I guess it can’t really compare to 1 or 2 pounds of boost.
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    Air resistance is a bitch at speed in these temps tho.
    Density altitude takes into consideration temperature, and we know cars are faster, due to higher hp, with lower DA’s. Should be a non-issue even for a big Jeep with aerodynamics equivalent to a refrigerator.

    @Darell_n where are you getting your numbers from? I typically use the numbers from flightaware:

    https://flightaware.com/resources/airport/CYBW/weather
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    I used to use this when I needed DA measurements for race city or castrol

    http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...calculator.php

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentry View Post
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    I used to use this when I needed DA measurements for race city or castrol

    http://www.dragtimes.com/da-density-...calculator.php
    This is what I use. Their app gives you instant readings for your location based off Weather Underground data. (don’t need to select a track). -6531 right now, but also -38°C. A 13.0 second 1/4 mile time gets corrected to 14.2 under standard conditions, obviously not factoring for zero traction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 90_Shelby View Post
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    Density altitude takes into consideration temperature, and we know cars are faster, due to higher hp, with lower DA’s. Should be a non-issue even for a big Jeep with aerodynamics equivalent to a refrigerator.
    The colder denser air is a lot higher in resistance. Not sure how much though. I remember testing my SLK32 back in the day, doing 100-200kmh runs at -40C temps, and it wasn't that much faster than summer. I expected a lot more. And of course watching how much hp it needs to maintain speed on the highway this week in -30C weather, it's like 15% more. So I figure air resistance is much worse as temps plummet.

    Was wondering if anyone has done that side of the calculations.
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    I THINK from reading a few things that most air density calculations for automotive performance are really all about ENGINE performance and engine output, and don't really take increased drag into account. Matters a lot at extra-legal highways speeds.
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    I THINK from reading a few things that most air density calculations for automotive performance are really all about ENGINE performance and engine output, and don't really take increased drag into account. Matters a lot at extra-legal highways speeds.
    It 100% doesn't factor in air resistance. There's no way to calculate it properly against all sorts of different cars with different coefficient of drag.

    Like I said, my question is, how big of a factor is it? I'm sure the Tesla folks can probably give a better idea as they monitor wh/km religiously, and probably a lot more accurate with less factors involved than with an ICE drivetrain.
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    On the flipside of that, I believe in Phoenix AZ if it's too hot they cancel flights because takeoff speeds and required runway lengths get too high in the hot thin air.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sentry View Post
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    On the flipside of that, I believe in Phoenix AZ if it's too hot they cancel flights because takeoff speeds and required runway lengths get too high in the hot thin air.
    Neat discussion here:
    https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.azc.../amp/827871002
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