2023 Alberta Provincial Election MEGA THREAD

[Xtrema]

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definitely not the NDP who cheered the demise of KXL.

I don't think they cheered but just more realistic about it.

At least not Notley's NDP:
https://thewalrus.ca/rachel-notleys-...-the-election/

[killramos]

Isn’t the NDP platform basically boiled down to hiring their supporters? That and paying for it with other peoples money?

Whatever floats your boat but it’s sure odd to support that and then criticize the UCP for hiring their supporters.

[dirtsniffer]

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I missed the part where Kenney created jobs pre-covid for those that weren't his cronies. Im so glad we're paying for Harper's kid to have a job as an 'advisor', or to be funding Allan's kid's law office..

Ya definitely there was no increase of jobs precovid, but there wasn't a ton of time there for change to happen after taking office. Less than 1 year between the election and the lock down. I am willing to see how the remaining 2 years go before deciding on the jobs performance. I agree that cronyism is bullshit and that prime ministers kids should not be allowed to participate in politics.

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I don't think they cheered but just more realistic about it.

At least not Notley's NDP...

The federal NDP and the Alberta NDP are the same party.

"Unlike most other Canadian parties, the NDP is integrated with its provincial and territorial parties. Holding membership of a provincial or territorial section of the NDP includes automatic membership in the federal party, and this precludes a person from supporting different parties at the federal and provincial levels. Membership lists are maintained by the provinces and territories."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democratic_Party

If rachel notley came out in support of someone other than Jagmeet Singh for prime minister I would applaud her. But she won't and she wants the ndp be the federal government. If notley endorsed someone else she could actually be kicked out of the party.

[Xtrema]

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Ya definitely there was no increase of jobs precovid, but there wasn't a ton of time there for change to happen after taking office. Less than 1 year between the election and the lock down. I am willing to see how the remaining 2 years go before deciding on the jobs performance. I agree that cronyism is bullshit and that prime ministers kids should not be allowed to participate in politics.



The federal NDP and the Alberta NDP are the same party.

"Unlike most other Canadian parties, the NDP is integrated with its provincial and territorial parties. Holding membership of a provincial or territorial section of the NDP includes automatic membership in the federal party, and this precludes a person from supporting different parties at the federal and provincial levels. Membership lists are maintained by the provinces and territories."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Democratic_Party

If rachel notley came out in support of someone other than Jagmeet Singh for prime minister I would applaud her. But she won't and she wants the ndp be the federal government. If notley endorsed someone else she could actually be kicked out of the party.

Functionally, I don't disagree there are some attachments but policy wise Notley go against the true NDP on a lot of fronts. Reality is quite a bit different than ideals.

Nobody got a crystal ball, but those train contract NDP signed may be handy right now. And I don't see why JK would cancel them until all pipes are fully flowing.



And if you believe in polls, UCP seems to losing votes to NDP AND WR resurgence. So it's happening, they are lucky that 2023 is almost 3 years away.
https://edmonton.ctvnews.ca/poll-sho...ound-1.5260357

[asp integra]

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If rachel notley came out in support of someone other than Jagmeet Singh for prime minister I would applaud her. But she won't and she wants the ndp be the federal government. If notley endorsed someone else she could actually be kicked out of the party.

It's my thought that Notley is waiting around for Manmeet to do something stupid, or wait for the party to call a leadership vote. I wouldn't be surprised at all if she was the top candidate the ndp wanted to move forward with federally.

[Brent.ff]

Let the hate flow through you!

[dirtsniffer]

If its any consolation I had one coming back the other way calling me a moron.

[kertejud2]

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Functionally, I don't disagree there are some attachments but policy wise Notley go against the true NDP on a lot of fronts. Reality is quite a bit different than ideals.

Nobody got a crystal ball, but those train contract NDP signed may be handy right now. And I don't see why JK would cancel them until all pipes are fully flowing.

Both Notley and Horgan went against the federal NDP policies when they were in power. The connection is pretty much in name only once a party actually has to govern. It's easy to stay connected when nothing is on the line. This effect was compounded with the big split in the federal NDP (the traditional CCF dippers and the trade unionists, being ignored with the LEAP Manifesto written by the white collar unions and champagne socialists). The NDP is a party that has official ties, but has fractured behind the scenes, and a big part of why the federal branch is fucked financially.

Compare that to the not connected conservative parties across the country, but do their best to act like they are. Essentially the opposite of what's happened with the NDP.


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Basically the connection of the parties is something people make too much of. They'll always do what they need to when it comes to governing and trying to stay in power.

[Brent.ff]

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If its any consolation I had one coming back the other way calling me a moron.

I know what im getting myself into when im anti-UCP on Beyond, so im not offended

[ExtraSlow]

People who neg-rep are queefs.

[ZenOps]

Party system will dissolve and become a regional system of petty feudal microcosms, as US support for oil (more succinctly, state bans on combustion engine accelerate) wanes. The right will fracture under no income, the left will appeal to the youngsters to get free pancakes four days a week.

Stock market will crumble as the US market crumbles. Friday might actually mark the end.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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People who neg-rep are queefs.

LoL, queefs. Haven't heard/smelled that insult in awhile!

^Check out the double red bar on the previous poster! Has that ever happened, before? That takes more than a couple of queefs!

[JohnnyHockey13]

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[ExtraSlow]

Pancakes are the worst part of a stampede breakfast, and if your breakfast has them as the centerpiece it's a shitty breakfast.

[killramos]

Yea. Everyone knows a good stampede breakfast is all about Vodka

[ThePenIsMightier]

Standing in a very long line for the cheapest pancakes, made poorly by some middle mgmt taint gobbler?
Where do I sign!???!

[killramos]

Amazing what people will do for a couple ounces of vodka and some minute made

[lasimmon]

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Amazing what people will do for a couple ounces of vodka and some minute made

How else am I going to kick this hangover?

[dirtsniffer]

[killramos]

https://edmontonjournal.com/news/pol...-rooms-isolate

For anyone who will accuse me of being blindly UCP.

This is a dog shit stupid move. Even Trudeau isn’t pulling that money losing scheme.