2023 Alberta Provincial Election MEGA THREAD

[ExtraSlow]

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So your not upset about what he did?

But you ARE upset that he was seen doing it?

He's bad at public relations, and he's bad at reading the mood of the voting public and taking actions that fit with that mood. To me those are the primary functions of a political leader, and he's failing at those primary functions. "getting people mad" is a performance issue for a politician.

[suntan]

Right now I think every politician of every stripe is at risk of losing their job come election time.

[Disoblige]

[suntan]

I look forward to buying Alberta bonds @ 8%.

[Ca_Silvia13]

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Lol, ya, that's exactly what I said. Could care less about him having dinner near people other then the stupidity of getting caught on the 'sky palace' while doing it.
The guy refuses to apologize and then has to grovel a week later. You tell me how well that's working for them...

Curious about your thoughts on Trudeau and the G7 leader mingling with out masks and distancing. Do you have the same opinion on that meeting?

[killramos]

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Curious about your thoughts on Trudeau and the G7 leader mingling with out masks and distancing. Do you have the same opinion on that meeting?

He only cares what politicians do when it can be used against the ones he doesn’t like.

A bit cynical but whatever floats his hilariously transparent boat.

[rage2]

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Curious about your thoughts on Trudeau and the G7 leader mingling with out masks and distancing. Do you have the same opinion on that meeting?

If people don't care about Trudeau in black face, they certainly won't give a fuck about masks and distancing. UCP can't even use hand sanitizer off camera without being criticized lol.

[Brent.ff]

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Curious about your thoughts on Trudeau and the G7 leader mingling with out masks and distancing. Do you have the same opinion on that meeting?

The only people complaining wouldn't be voting for him anyway... Trudeau could have been licking Biden's face and it wouldn't change that he'll still beat the old-white-guy club of the the Cons who cant help but step on their own feet. Equivalently stupid, sure, equivalently bad politically? Not even close.

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He's bad at public relations, and he's bad at reading the mood of the voting public and taking actions that fit with that mood. To me those are the primary functions of a political leader, and he's failing at those primary functions. "getting people mad" is a performance issue for a politician.

Exactly. This thing blew up by him trying to tell everyone he was right, they were wrong. He coulda have nipped it with a simple 'you know, we tried, but we got a little too close..we're sorry'.

[Tik-Tok]

Everyone in here acting like any of this will matter in two years, lol

[ExtraSlow]

It mattered once. I don't see why it wouldn't matter again. People in canada predominantly vote AGAINST things, and Kenney and the current UCP are very "vote againstable".

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I have been getting great feedback on these MEGA THREADS so I knew just what topic all y'all would love to discuss. Alberta Provincial politics!

Predictions for the next election, which is supposed to happen before May 2023.
- Will Jason Kenney stay as leader of the Alberta Conservative party?
- Will a second credible conservative party re-emerge as a legitimate contender?
- Will the Alberta Liberal party ever recover?
- Will anyone campaign on a PST?
- Will party platforms and promises matter at all or will it go fully tribal?


Rampant speculation and wild theories encouraged.

No … no one will vote for him…
No …. If if it does it will be far left nut jobs
No … liberals worse then nip in this province
No … never get voted in
Yes … tribal

I would vote NDP if kenney runs again just as a hate vote against ucp…

[Tik-Tok]

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It mattered once. I don't see why it wouldn't matter again. People in canada predominantly vote AGAINST things, and Kenney and the current UCP are very "vote againstable".

2 years is a long time for goldfish to remember. If Prentice told Albertans to look in the mirror two years prior to the election, and not two months prior, the PC's probably would have stayed in power.

[suntan]

All I know is that Rob Ford is going to get smashed into oblivion in Ontario.

[tirebob]

I am no Kenny fan, but there is no denying that the guy was going to be fucked no matter what he did as soon as Covid hit. There is not a single thing he would have done short drawing every single virus worldwide into his anus and then open mouth kissing Trudeau and shoving them all into his stomach, that would have got him off of the attack list. And even that would have drawn fire from from the left leaners and media in our province.

The fact now though is that he is a toxic personality in the party and province, right or wrong.

If the UCP stands a sliver of a chance at winning they need a new leader, and if uniting conservatives is the only way they can do that, Brian Jean might actually be the only guy who can cross that divide.

[Maxt]

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I am no Kenny fan, but there is no denying that the guy was going to be fucked no matter what he did as soon as Covid hit. There is not a single thing he would have done short drawing every single virus worldwide into his anus and then open mouth kissing Trudeau and shoving them all into his stomach, that would have got him off of the attack list. And even that would have drawn fire from from the left leaners and media in our province.

The fact now though is that he is a toxic personality in the party and province, right or wrong.

If the UCP stands a sliver of a chance at winning they need a new leader, and if uniting conservatives is the only way they can do that, Brian Jean might actually be the only guy who can cross that divide.

Brian Jean has supporters, but he also seems to have just as many haters, within the conservative group. I don't think he's the guy either, the big criticism about him before in the last leadership race was that he wasn't harsh enough or willing to go low enough when the NDP took the fight there. The robotic cue card reading debate performance is still stuck in my mind when I think of him. Maybe Blinky will finally get his time in the big chair?

[killramos]

I don’t think I have ever heard a conservative pine for Brian Jean to come back.

Honestly. What’s the appeal of the guy? 3 term nobody CPC MP I’m fort MacMurray. Barely won leadership after the Daniele smith debacle got beaten by the NDP in Alberta, served as an MLA for all of 3 years before quitting to “rebuild his house” that burned down 2 years prior. He garnered all of 3,000 votes in a riding with under 45% turnout.

Brian Jean is probably the biggest meme in Alberta politics lol.

I could see why NDP voters would love to have him lead the UCP, Notley walked all over the guy last time.

[ThePenIsMightier]

I see little reason to not vote for Kenney. Rachel's behaviour throughout the pandemic has been deplorable. The far right that is contaminating the UCP will never be appeased unless we ban abortion and open a hunting season on immigrants.
I voted for the Alberta Party and it's too bad that they got wiped off the map because I predicted that within 1 or 2 elections, they'd be seen as the perfect centre-right blend after our insane pendulum swinging from NDP and UCP.
I was right, but also wrong as now no one will vote for them because their pathetic leader couldn't even win his seat. Fucking bowtie wearing, dog-office-giving, weirdo!

[SKR]

I just want controlled spending and for people to be able to smash their genitals into or onto other consenting people. I don't like how they're two unrelated things but you can't have both.

[tirebob]

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I don’t think I have ever heard a conservative pine for Brian Jean to come back.

Honestly. What’s the appeal of the guy? 3 term nobody CPC MP I’m fort MacMurray. Barely won leadership after the Daniele smith debacle got beaten by the NDP in Alberta, served as an MLA for all of 3 years before quitting to “rebuild his house” that burned down 2 years prior. He garnered all of 3,000 votes in a riding with under 45% turnout.

Brian Jean is probably the biggest meme in Alberta politics lol.

I could see why NDP voters would love to have him lead the UCP, Notley walked all over the guy last time.

I dunno man... I don't think Notley walked all over him as much as the she ended up in the perfect storm of discontent with the slide of performance from one long term party and a ship jumper from the other. I think the fact he is the kind of Conservative that heartland Albertans like combined with the fact he has a reputation as a good guy and not a total sleaze could woo the conservative lights still and maybe even some of the centre/left leaners. Back during the fires up North etc I don't know if you remember but he was really pumped up as a man of the people and while that was a while ago, stuff like that can be reignited. The biggest problem I would see would be if he was thrown into the position last minute/last resort style again instead of having a legit period of time to get out and round up solid support again.

[killramos]

The election will be won in the cities in Alberta. And Brian Jean isn’t converting any fence sitters.

Imo, if I had to pick a rock solid candidate to replace Kenney with. You need someone that will win seats in Calgary in particular, someone popular with name recognition with a bit of an edge to point out the NDP’s bullshit.

Personally, I’d tag in Rempel. Though I’m not sure she wants the job.

All that said, we’d be kidding ourselves if we think having a new face would change literally anything policy wise. I don’t like or hate Kenney. But I don’t dislike his policies as a general statement, certainly like them more than the alternatives. I don’t really care about the cult of personality that politics pretends to be, so I would probably support Kenney in a leadership vote unless someone super compelling presented themselves. I certainly would blow a vote on Brian Jean.