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    Quote Originally Posted by 89coupe View Post
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    Blows my mind why they wouldn’t make an AWD version.
    Why? They sold their initial allotment out the day of. They don't need to water it down.

    Blows my mind you think for the final Cadillac swan song they'd ruin it with an AWD verison

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89coupe View Post
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    Blows my mind why they wouldn’t make an AWD version.
    This is why:

    As Caddy's chief engineer global luxury and performance cars, Brandon Vivian, said when asked about why there's no all-wheel-drive option: "If it doesn't make the car faster on a racetrack, we don't put it on the car."

    This car is going to dominate everything in its class on the track.
    I like neat cars.

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    Should have made it an AWD SUV. That might have broadened its appeal in Aspen. And don't make the suspension hard either. Kthxbye.
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90_Shelby View Post
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    This is why:

    As Caddy's chief engineer global luxury and performance cars, Brandon Vivian, said when asked about why there's no all-wheel-drive option: "If it doesn't make the car faster on a racetrack, we don't put it on the car."

    This car is going to dominate everything in its class on the track.

    Narrow minded considering 90% of these vehicles will ever see a race track.

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    Or Snow for that matter
    Originally posted by Thales of Miletus

    If you think I have been trying to present myself as intellectually superior, then you truly are a dimwit.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    How is the sidewall situation? Can they survive a pothole?
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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    All i want is right pedal goes brrrr

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89coupe View Post
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    Narrow minded considering 90% of these vehicles will ever see a race track.
    That same thought process could be applied to an M5 Competition vs an M5, it comes down to marketing. Stats and bragging rights sell, I’m all for it.
    I like neat cars.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90_Shelby View Post
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    That same thought process could be applied to an M5 Competition vs an M5, it comes down to marketing. Stats and bragging rights sell, I’m all for it.
    I believe BMW retired the base M5. You can only order the competition or club sport now.

    Either way, just seems odd they wouldn’t broaden their market base and offer a high performance AWD sedan.

    Oh well, sounds like they are retiring petro fueled vehicles.

    That was my reason for jumping on the M5, scared that everyone is moving to electric.

    So sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89coupe View Post
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    I believe BMW retired the base M5. You can only order the competition or club sport now.

    Either way, just seems odd they wouldn’t broaden their market base and offer a high performance AWD sedan.

    Oh well, sounds like they are retiring petro fueled vehicles.

    That was my reason for jumping on the M5, scared that everyone is moving to electric.

    So sad.
    This.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 89coupe View Post
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    That was my reason for jumping on the M5, scared that everyone is moving to electric.

    So sad.
    And I am not sure if German cars coming to our shore got the noise neuter already anyway. The fake pump in noise is ruining them already.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 90_Shelby View Post
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    This is why:

    As Caddy's chief engineer global luxury and performance cars, Brandon Vivian, said when asked about why there's no all-wheel-drive option: "If it doesn't make the car faster on a racetrack, we don't put it on the car."

    This car is going to dominate everything in its class on the track.
    And then they put a manual transmission in it...
    - "But DSG is faster on the track than manual shifting"
    - "but its a drivers car, needs 6 spd"


    Full disclosure: Total manual fanboy #shiftinggg
    Full disclosure x2: I'd rock one still

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    And I am not sure if German cars coming to our shore got the noise neuter already anyway. The fake pump in noise is ruining them already.
    Thankfully Canadian cars are safe.

    The enhanced engine noise is actually a mic that takes the real engine noise and pumps into the cabin, found this out. So technically it’s not fake, just enhanced because the cabins are so sound proof, you wouldn’t normally hear it.

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    Pretty sure that’s not true.

    Unless something is dramatically different on the M5 compared to every other car they make, BMW ASD is completely synthetically generated and the type of sound spat out from the speakers is coded by chassis code.

    You can recode a 116d to make the same interior sounds as an M6 if you want to just by typing in a different chassis code into the ASD system.

    Most people have the good sense to code the ASD off on M Cars.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Pretty sure that’s not true.

    Unless something is dramatically different on the M5 compared to every other car they make, BMW ASD is completely synthetically generated and the type of sound spat out from the speakers is coded by chassis code.

    You can recode a 116d to make the same interior sounds as an M6 if you want to just by typing in a different chassis code into the ASD system.

    Most people have the good sense to code the ASD off on M Cars.
    Maybe,

    I read this on the BMW forums, a BMW tech mentioned the mic thing.

    Who knows, I don’t care either way.

    Car sounds mean and goes like stink.

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    A mic in the engine bay would basically hear the rattle of direct injection mixed with turbo noises. It would make an M5 sound like a tractor if that noise was piped anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Pretty sure that’s not true.

    Unless something is dramatically different on the M5 compared to every other car they make, BMW ASD is completely synthetically generated and the type of sound spat out from the speakers is coded by chassis code.

    You can recode a 116d to make the same interior sounds as an M6 if you want to just by typing in a different chassis code into the ASD system.

    Most people have the good sense to code the ASD off on M Cars.
    thats gross.

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    Hard to say if it’s better or worse than Audi putting actual speakers into the exhaust system.

    Pretending your own car sounds better than it does, or tricking your car to sound better than it does to the world.

    Delusion versus Poseur.
    Last edited by killramos; 02-10-2021 at 12:39 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Hard to say if it’s better or worse than Audi putting actual speakers into the exhaust system.

    Pretending your own car sounds better than it does, or tricking your car to sound better than it does to the world.

    Delusion versus Poseur.
    Speakers in the exhaust is way worse, IMO.

    As much as we talk about how stupid it is, the logic is sound (ha). The people who want to hear the loud noises can hear them, and everyone else surrounding the car doesn't have to listen to it.

    Of course, I don't buy into it, but I get it. I like hearing nice cars. Listening to people wind out their exotics down lower springbank road is one of my favorite parts about golfing at my course haha.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swak View Post
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    And then they put a manual transmission in it...
    - "But DSG is faster on the track than manual shifting"
    - "but its a drivers car, needs 6 spd"


    Full disclosure: Total manual fanboy #shiftinggg
    Full disclosure x2: I'd rock one still
    10 speed auto is optional and I’m sure it will be faster on the track then the stick.
    I like neat cars.

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