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    Default "no-go" zones. Areas of Victoria ceded to homeless camps.

    Seems like this is a small step away from what happened in Portland where police wouldn't even enter certain sections of the city.
    Right now parks and bylaw staff won't enter certain Victoria parks without police escorts.
    https://www.timescolonist.com/news/l...ned-1.24283968
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    I'd be lying if I said I didn't disagree.

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    Gross. Council too busy with their head up their ass making bike lanes ruining Fort Street.
    Who's the moderator with the "More Cowbell" avatar that moved there? Someone please mention that member as I'd like to hear his take.

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    send in the 'Rona

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    Read up on Ben Isitt, that guy is a real piece of work.

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    This is happening in Calgary too. Folks have set up under the LRT bridge along 14th street and 14th ave NW. Also, check out the bunch of trees along 14th street just before 16th ave NW southbound. The place is littered with all kinds of late night finds while they roam the adjacent neighborhoods.

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    Victoria is a shithole. The rest of the island isn’t much better
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    @hampstor

    Talk to me, Goose.

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    Nanaimo dismantled their 'fun zone' after several fires and tents were burned.

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    2021. Along with tiny houses and living in vans. Brave new world.
    SN11 - Nope.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    Talk to me, Goose.
    I'll do a comparison to Calgary.

    To level set what "Victoria" is for everyone else, it's one of several municipalities in the capital region district. Each one has their own town council/tax/police/fire/bylaws/trash and compost pickup/sewage etc. There are common services provided by a group called the CRD (water and recycling pickup). The main municipalities are Victoria, Saanich, View Royal, Esquimalt, Colwood, and Langford. The comparison to Calgary would be like... every neighbourhood being its own city.

    The comparison would be Druh Farrell massively expanding homeless programs in her area and ONLY her area. Since it becomes very homeless friendly, more homeless started coming to downtown Calgary. Basic services get overwhelmed. People shitting and pissing everywhere. So they allow camping in prince's island park so homeless are in one area. Prince's island park then becomes a giant homeless camp - complete with a bicycle chop shop, drugs, fighting. The city puts porta poties/medical facilities there. More people show up, and its overwhelming. City buys old hotels downtown, turns them into shelters. There are problems, so they pass laws specifically to address it. City bylaw tries to enforce bylaws, finds that homeless aren't all nice people, and needs help from police (the same police they want to defund). They don't have enough money, as they've driven businesses out with their cycle tracks and other progressive agenda ideas. Calgarians from outside the downtown go 'fuck it, im not going downtown anymore', and the Calgarians who live downtown are now fucked.

    The big thing to remember here is unlike Calgary which is one city, the different municipalities don't actually have to agree on things. Victoria may want to allow camping in other parks in say, Saanich, but since it's a different municipality, Saanich will tell them to go fuck themselves and fix the problem they made themselves.

    In the last few weeks when it got cold, some of the camps had some crazy fires and shit. One of the fires they lit, someone threw propane tanks or other pressurized containers in, resulting in explosions and people getting hurt. My favourite place to get wings (Heckler's on Gorge), is now a gong show since they bought the hotel its attached to and the parking lot is sketchy as fuck.

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    Yea. All that plus it doesn’t get cold enough to kill people so they stay.

    Very similar problem to pine beetles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by hampstor View Post
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    I'll do a comparison to Calgary.

    To level set what "Victoria" is for everyone else, it's one of several municipalities in the capital region district. Each one has their own town council/tax/police/fire/bylaws/trash and compost pickup/sewage etc. There are common services provided by a group called the CRD (water and recycling pickup). The main municipalities are Victoria, Saanich, View Royal, Esquimalt, Colwood, and Langford. The comparison to Calgary would be like... every neighbourhood being its own city.

    The comparison would be Druh Farrell massively expanding homeless programs in her area and ONLY her area. Since it becomes very homeless friendly, more homeless started coming to downtown Calgary. Basic services get overwhelmed. People shitting and pissing everywhere. So they allow camping in prince's island park so homeless are in one area. Prince's island park then becomes a giant homeless camp - complete with a bicycle chop shop, drugs, fighting. The city puts porta poties/medical facilities there. More people show up, and its overwhelming. City buys old hotels downtown, turns them into shelters. There are problems, so they pass laws specifically to address it. City bylaw tries to enforce bylaws, finds that homeless aren't all nice people, and needs help from police (the same police they want to defund). They don't have enough money, as they've driven businesses out with their cycle tracks and other progressive agenda ideas. Calgarians from outside the downtown go 'fuck it, im not going downtown anymore', and the Calgarians who live downtown are now fucked.

    The big thing to remember here is unlike Calgary which is one city, the different municipalities don't actually have to agree on things. Victoria may want to allow camping in other parks in say, Saanich, but since it's a different municipality, Saanich will tell them to go fuck themselves and fix the problem they made themselves.

    In the last few weeks when it got cold, some of the camps had some crazy fires and shit. One of the fires they lit, someone threw propane tanks or other pressurized containers in, resulting in explosions and people getting hurt. My favourite place to get wings (Heckler's on Gorge), is now a gong show since they bought the hotel its attached to and the parking lot is sketchy as fuck.
    Very true.
    I think the article mentioned Gorge Road area and that's always been a trainwreck because all those scabby old motels have been unofficial housing for mental patients and homeless for the past 20 years.
    The other area surprised me a little more. (Can't recall it's name, this instant).

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    Yea. All that plus it doesnít get cold enough to kill people so they stay.

    Very similar problem to pine beetles.
    It's a little worse than "staying". It's more that they come and stay due to tolerable winter.
    Victoria and Vancouver are in the business of importing the nation's homeless and they receive no additional funding to deal with that fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    Very true.
    I think the article mentioned Gorge Road area and that's always been a trainwreck because all those scabby old motels have been unofficial housing for mental patients and homeless for the past 20 years.
    The other area surprised me a little more. (Can't recall it's name, this instant).
    Beacon Hill Park, and Royal Athletic Park are the big areas right now. Neither of those places you want to live near or be around in the dark.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThePenIsMightier View Post
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    they receive no additional funding to deal with that fact.
    Just as god intended
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    Quote Originally Posted by jutes View Post
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    Read up on Ben Isitt, that guy is a real piece of work.
    Ben Isitt and Lisa Helps make Druh Farrell sound like Joe Magliocca (contrasting someone with a socially progressive agenda vs. someone who does not).

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Victoria is a shithole. The rest of the island isnít much better
    I have a house there. Was thinking itís where Iíd retire. I cant fucking stand hippies and weak people. Iím going to have to sell and find an acerage out there with a moat and gators.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hampstor View Post
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    Beacon Hill Park, and Royal Athletic Park are the big areas right now. Neither of those places you want to live near or be around in the dark.
    Yeah it was Royal Athletic that surprised me, but then I checked the map and remembered Fernwood. Say no more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Victoria is a shithole. The rest of the island isn’t much better
    You stop that.
    Uclulet and Tofino are amazing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vengie View Post
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    You stop that.
    Uclulet and Tofino are amazing.
    I know, LoL!
    I think some sand stayed in his vagina when the baby came out. RoFL!

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