Overtime

[killramos]

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Paid overtime, what is that?

...My hours aren't billable to anything but internal cost centers, I work for a producer.

What a Chump, working for free.

[mrsingh]

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What a Chump, working for free.

True story!

[sabad66]

Back when I was in IT Projects and billed time internally it was something crazy like $1200 USD a day as an intermediate level business analyst. I wish my salary was the same as my internal billing rate back then

[mrsingh]

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Back when I was in IT Projects and billed time internally it was something crazy like $1200 USD a day as an intermediate level business analyst. I wish my salary was the same as my internal billing rate back then

So they turned their cost centers into profit centers, awesome!

[ExtraSlow]

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Back when I was in IT Projects and billed time internally it was something crazy like $1200 USD a day as an intermediate level business analyst. I wish my salary was the same as my internal billing rate back then

Well, bill out rates should be roughly 2x what the individual makes.

[legendboy]

At the last co I worked for I had a sweet deal worked out as a salary employee, 1.5 time in off for OT worked

My new job guys just stay until their work is done. Working with some burned out engineers. The boss does give us flexibility when we need to take a few hours off here and there so I guess its ok

[schurchill39]

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I have personally never worried about working overtime as a salaried employee, but then again I was always the guy who would advance the fastest and was given the most leeway and freedom in my life, and I think it was largely do to the fact I always worked like I owned the business rather than for the business. When I wanted to take days off or come in late from an early morning round of golf or whatever, I never got any hassles. When I needed something for myself the owners I worked for would always accommodate. I also always ended up making more money on salary than my coworkers. My theory has always been I work harder than I am getting paid for and become so valuable as an employee that they can't see a way to do without me so they make sure I am happy and it has almost always worked, and the very rare instances it hasn't, I was always a desired employee by other companies and had zero issue getting a new gig.

If you have a good employer, they recognize and reward, even if it isn't always in terms of cash in hand, but if you have an employer that doesn't see it then move on. I never saw the point in complaining about where I work. I work for my own reputation and that is more valuable than anything, so when a company doesn't live up to my expectations there was always another one that I could go to.

QFT. There is more benefit than just cash in hand, I like that and completely agree

[mrsingh]

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Well, bill out rates should be roughly 2x what the individual makes.

Yes but he is talking out billing out internally. So I read that as billing out to other groups within the organization! (Not on knock on him obviously, and honestly not the first time I have seen that).

[suntan]

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Yeah its non oil and gas but more in the retail / product marketing business.

Its hard to know what the market for IT salaries should be in Calgary because it seems to me like in traditional IT the salaries haven't really changed much in the last 10 years.

The average programmer salary in Canada is around $60K.

Almost everybody leaves for the USA where salaries can be 3X.

$100-120/hr for contract was standard, but recent events have lowered that waaaay down to $60/hr.

[Darell_n]

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The average programmer salary in Canada is around $60K.

Almost everybody leaves for the USA where salaries can be 3X.

$100-120/hr for contract was standard, but recent events have lowered that waaaay down to $60/hr.

With your math the average programmer in Canada works 10 days / month.

[killramos]

Equating contract and salary comp is a bad idea

[suntan]

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With your math the average programmer in Canada works 10 days / month.

Salary vs contract.