That's 5 times too many.
That's 5 times too many.
I was just there for NYE. It's so incredibly different. I was pulled from my igloo in the darkness (6 months of darkness "way" up there) and not only mugged, but also raped.
Only 87 octane available and way, way more realtors everywhere. It was truly different and awful.
Add winter temp and keeping pace with everyone at 140kph, you won't even reach Red Deer.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
So can you turn your reservation spot for a profit still, or just walk away?
Lol that range wouldn't even cover a round trip to a Rider game without sitting at a charging station. $60k for a city-only commuter? That's bananas.
This is my first winter with my Model 3 and it handled that cold snap like a champ outside of the reduced range which was expected.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
The thing is that EV's really are brilliant city commuter cars. You can drive to work, hit the gym after, and plug it in and forget it when you get home. You just get in and drive all the time with no sitting in a cold car idling it as they precondition for when you leave to and from work. No worry about ensuring oil temperatures are high enough for spirited driving, etc. That part of ownership has made a believer out of me. However I don't think I will even bother tempting fate and using this car for travelling. Weather conditions and higher speeds have such a negative effect on battery capacity that I simply don't want or need the stress of making it to the next charger and hoping there's not a big lineup. We are still in the early years of EV and it's just a matter of knowing what they do well and what they don't as they are not yet the total package.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Im ok with my few thousand dollar POS pathfinder for city use. I’ll never see any cost savings in my lifetime to offset an EV. If I could pick up an EV for $5000 then the conversation would be different.
Honestly, at a 3k price point you are right, you'll never see cost savings.
However, if you're looking at spending what cars/suvs with less than 100k actually cost these days I think there is some pretty significant savings. I went to a plug-in hybrid for my most recent car and would have spent the equivalent amount on an ICE car. The fuel savings between my past ICE and my plug-in hybrid is over $400/month. My electricity bill hasn't gone up a penny either since making the switch.
Electric cars have always been way more ideally suited for city use. It's also where the delta in fuel economy is the highest.
They are the Koodo Mobile of cars.
*or whichever the fuck cell company is the one that only works in major cities
*gasp* a car that has different trim levels with different powertrain options? Surely this isn't revolutionary news. I'm pretty sure this has been the approach for every car produced in our lifetimes.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
I don’t care about profit not worth my time. If anyone still wants one, they can take it from me before I officially bow out and ask for a refund.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Excellent summary. I really wish I had more garage space, definitely would’ve gotten the ev6 GT as a pure city DD. With only room for 2 cars, and routine split trips on the same weekend, the best we can muster is PHEV. We’re doing decent now with both cars being hybrids.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
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Have a Outlander PHEV coming. Wife will be the primary user, she won’t ever need to put gas in it to get from work to home. Choice is limited for any plug in that seats 7. I know the Outlander 3rd row is tiny, but it’ll haul kids. Probably would’ve gone for a Pacifica Hybrid if it offered AWD, we really liked it. PHEV is the best of both worlds IMO.
Even with heat pump, heard engine will fire whenever it's -5c out. So don't expect pure EV experience in winter.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Which dealer and how much over MSRP? Platinum want $72K.
Find a Toyota dealer and put your name down for a Sienna Prime. It’s probably happening in the next couple of years as the Sienna platform is engineered to fit the PHEV drivetrain. The reviews for the RAV4 prime has been nothing but praise.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Originally posted by SEANBANERJEE
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That makes sense. I know there was no 500+hp option when I was looking. It'll be great when battery technology catches up to the EV industry so something like this 576hp Kia will actually seem like a reasonable purchase getting 500+km to a charge. Although for my current dadlife I'll be more interested in something that is 300hp and 1000km charge.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Yeah that's about what I recall. So right in line with the industry. The scary thing is what does it get in the real world? Manufacturers essentially lie about fuel consumption numbers, as they are all based on perfect conditions that don't exist in real world. I imagine EV charge ranges are similar.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Once you factor a battery replacement in and the rapidly increasing cost on electricity, it might be a different equation. Be interesting to see where things go in the next 10 years. But even with the vague foresight, I'd probably get an EV myself if all I needed was a city commuter.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote
Thanks for the pedantic misplaced comment. Very helpful.This quote is hidden because you are ignoring this member. Show Quote