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    Is this going to work or backfire by keeping people away?

    https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...ge-in-vehicle/

    "Albertans who want to hike, ski or otherwise play in Kananaskis Country will have to pay to access the area come June 1, when a $90 per-vehicle annual fee comes into effect.
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    The annual pass will be tied to licence plates, but visitors will also have the option to pay $15 per day. Among those exempt from the fee will be low-income earners and First Nations people. Much like the system in place in Banff National Park, the fee will apply to anyone who uses park facilities."

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    Being discussed in camping thread
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    Probably better to have this in here separate from camping. Lots more than just about camping.
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    User fees are the best form of taxation.
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    Sounds like once you find a carpool buddy, they're taking a lot of miles on their car.

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    Accurate, although they often hurt my feelings.
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    How would the 15$ per day option work? Are they going to set up toll booths like Banff? Is it electronic with an app?
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    Sounds like once you find a carpool buddy, they're taking a lot of miles on their car.
    Sounds like that gas station on highway one is gonna need to build a longer service road or a carpark
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    Could have been over 60% if I wasn’t a paper hand bitch

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    Gestapo cars like CPA.

    Get your plate scanned in the park without paying and get a bill in the mail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    How would the 15$ per day option work? Are they going to set up toll booths like Banff? Is it electronic with an app?
    When ever I have hiked lately a bylaw or Alberta parks officer has been checking all the cars

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    Another genius move by the Kenny Gov. Soooo this will go towards hiring more officers that can now spend their time looking for permits and issuing fines for lack of said permit? Awesome. Brilliant choice, additional fees for people trying to do one of the few activities that are available due to the pandemic and lockdowns. Camping rates are already shocking, so let's make a fee that gets those people plus the hikers.

    I get it, K country has become insanely crowded, the way people park on popular trails is crazy, the amount of garbage is out of control, but this is not the answer. I sure hope I have to eat my words and this leads to a noticeable change in the park.

    Just my humble 2 cents.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowdy View Post
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    Another genius move by the Kenny Gov. Soooo this will go towards hiring more officers that can now spend their time looking for permits and issuing fines for lack of said permit? Awesome. Brilliant choice, additional fees for people trying to do one of the few activities that are available due to the pandemic and lockdowns. Camping rates are already shocking, so let's make a fee that gets those people plus the hikers.

    I get it, K country has become insanely crowded, the way people park on popular trails is crazy, the amount of garbage is out of control, but this is not the answer. I sure hope I have to eat my words and this leads to a noticeable change in the park.

    Just my humble 2 cents.
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    Need parkplus cars doing the enforecement. Get CPA to do it, very low overhead.
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    Everyone’s copying my ideas today
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rowdy View Post
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    Another genius move by the Kenny Gov. Soooo this will go towards hiring more officers that can now spend their time looking for permits and issuing fines for lack of said permit? Awesome. Brilliant choice, additional fees for people trying to do one of the few activities that are available due to the pandemic and lockdowns. Camping rates are already shocking, so let's make a fee that gets those people plus the hikers.

    I get it, K country has become insanely crowded, the way people park on popular trails is crazy, the amount of garbage is out of control, but this is not the answer. I sure hope I have to eat my words and this leads to a noticeable change in the park.

    Just my humble 2 cents.
    Well, price is one way to reduce demand. But given we fund our police with speeding tickets, I don't think parking/access fee to fund parks is that far of a stretch. And we are not the 1st to do so.

    https://www.ontarioparks.com/fees/dayuse/2019

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    $90/yr per vehicle is stupid expensive when you consider $140 for a National Park pass that is a physical pass good for a family/multiple cars in a household and it's good for every park across Canada. Fuck you to whoever proposed this.
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    They have info up on the government site now:

    https://www.alberta.ca/kananaskis-co...tion-pass.aspx

    $15/day, $90/year for 2 cars, no extra for trailers

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    Couldn’t we have just made the rich pay for the parks.
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    they say that the fee's are due to the increase of stress on the environment so is the fee designed to keep people away, save the environment, or just a way to generate revenue. Given that, its not a big deal in my opinion.

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