Do you trust modern cruise control on snowy highways?

[birdman86]

Mostly curious where people stand on this. With traction control modern vehicles can kill cruise and throttle a lot quicker than I can lift my foot off the throttle, which seems like it should eliminate the risk with using cruise on winter highways (accelerating into a slide and thus turning it into a spin).

What you fellas think?

[killramos]

Not really. Cruise doesn’t know anything external as to what’s going on around you.

It doesn’t see drift you are about to hit.

It doesn’t see the curve coming up.

It doesn’t see the patch of ice.

It doesn’t see the person in front of you start fishtailing.

It doesn’t know that one only side of the car has grip.

If the conditions are bad enough to think about this, I would say they are bad enough to not be using cruise.

Personally I think I could lift off the gas a bit lot quicker than I can cancel cruise if something dicey comes up

[mr2mike]

Nope.
I know a guy that died on Hwy 2 from cruise control in the winter. Vehicle tires were still turning, vehicle was upside down in the field when people arrived to help.

[ThePenIsMightier]

Hard no.
I can already tell (with testing) that I'm way better than my cruise control, but I don't have anything super "modern".

What year would you define for "modern" in this context?

[pheoxs]

Nope as it has no context. If I hit an icey patch on a flat road the last thing I want the car doing is hitting the brakes and skidding more. Better to just coast to slow down and keep the car neutral to avoid sliding. Also when I put my car in snow mode is also disables the adaptive cruise anyways so pretty sure the car agrees as well.

[03ozwhip]

Dry roads only for cruise.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

I've had CC cancel when a tire slightly slipped. It's way more sensitive than me. And if you're not at least paying attention to cancel by tapping the brakes or hitting the cancel button anyways, I have questions. It's an augment, not a replacement, and I use it as so.

Yeah, I use it on Stoney/Hw2, but I also take over quite often. Bend coming up? Cancel and take over. Car slowing down ahead of me, or acting weird? Take over. Car coming up behind me too fast? Take over.

I'd say anything with radar cruise control, is modern.

I can already tell (without testing) that my cruise control is way better than TPIM.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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I can already tell (without testing) that my cruise control is way better than TPIM.

That's why you turn it off constantly.

[Darell_n]

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Hard no.
I can already tell (with testing) that I'm way better than my cruise control, but I don't have anything super "modern".

What year would you define for "modern" in this context?

I'd consider anything with lane correction to be 'modern'.

[vengie]

Cruise control is reactive, gauging the road conditions and situations coming up is proactive.

As said, only on dry roads.

[ercchry]

Cruise control turns off way sooner than my limits care for. The old 05 Chevy cancels if I hit a Texas gate in the summer on dry roads, so it’s nothing new. The bronco is funny too, slows down on dry roads if it gets twisty. Way, way before limits of traction.

So no, I don’t even bother setting it out if roads aren’t dry.

[ThePenIsMightier]

@birdman86 what did you want to consider "modern"?

Maybe this should be a poll.

[Flexray]

By modern cruise control, I'm going to assume active cruise control. I trust it. I think the vehicle can calculate it's way out a skid better than I could try to drive out of one.

[ExtraSlow]

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By modern cruise control, I'm going to assume active cruise control. I trust it. I think the vehicle can calculate it's way out a skid better than I could try to drive out of one.

Unrelated to the above topic, but for an actual skid, yes. Specifically towing, where the truck has what amounts to "five channel" braking, and in some systems, additional yaw sensors on the trailer. Much better than any human.

As for cruise on snowy roads? I think the cruise would drive faster than me, the human, so no.

[Disoblige]

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Nope.
I know a guy that died on Hwy 2 from cruise control in the winter. Vehicle tires were still turning, vehicle was upside down in the field when people arrived to help.

That is so crazy! You would think something would cause the CC to cancel while the vehicle was going upside down. Wow.

[Darell_n]

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That is so crazy! You would think something would cause the CC to cancel while the vehicle was going upside down. Wow.

Like the engine running upside down? Haha. I doubt it was the CC turning the wheels.

[Darkane]

The issue isnt CC on straight roads, but always a change of pitch or curves.

NEVER use CC in slippery conditions on curves and turns. Doesn’t matter what traction control vehicles have.

Always coast into corners in slippery conditions, especially on the highway. People do know this, no?

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Can I use it? Yes. Will I make better progress and be safer without it? Also yes.

[vengie]

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The issue isnt CC on straight roads, but always a change of pitch or curves.

NEVER use CC in slippery conditions on curves and turns. Doesn’t matter what traction control vehicles have.

Always coast into corners in slippery conditions, especially on the highway. People do know this, no?

Tide had to release a statement that Tide pods were not edible.
So no, I'm sure most people are too stupid to know this.

[Tik-Tok]

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Vehicle tires were still turning, vehicle was upside down in the field when people arrived to help.

That will happen whether cruise control is on or not. So long as the vehicle is in Drive.

I don't trust my 2011 truck though on possible ice. I used to think it was quicker than me but then I felt the rear end give out slightly at 50km/h and CC never cancelled, so now I do the same as Lildrunkensmurf and adjust for conditions.