Am I crazy or is this the worst time ever to buy a vehicle?

[killramos]

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Not on purpose? What does not seeing a 4 square imply?

You don’t buy domestics.

[brucebanner]

Toyota deployed this method on me as well.

[haggis88]

Wtf does a 4 square actually show?

[Tik-Tok]

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Wtf does a 4 square actually show?

It hides how they're ripping off people who don't math.

https://www.consumerreports.org/cons...ow-to-beat-it/

[ExtraSlow]

Yeah the point of a 4 square sheet is not to show things. There's more than one method that uses it, but the underlying idea is to obfuscate and confuse.

[hurrdurr]

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Can't blame them for trying (realtors and salesmen); they gotta do their jobs. It's all about the hustle.

Hope you're not the type of lawyer that gets child molesters set free on a technicality, but then again, It's all about the hustle

[ExtraSlow]

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Hope you're not the type of lawyer that gets child molesters set free on a technicality, but then again, It's all about the hustle

Let's not start that here.

[killramos]

+1 it’s easy enough to make fun without going below the belt on that one

[Buster]

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Hope you're not the type of lawyer that gets child molesters set free on a technicality, but then again, It's all about the hustle

jesus dude

[03ozwhip]

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Hope you're not the type of lawyer that gets child molesters set free on a technicality, but then again, It's all about the hustle

Whoa...shit.

[shakalaka]

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Hope you're not the type of lawyer that gets child molesters set free on a technicality, but then again, It's all about the hustle

Haha whenever I hear/read comments like these, it makes me chuckle and shows me the maturity of the person making them. This way I know not to engage them in any sort of meaningful discussion. Carry on.

[suntan]

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Hope you're not the type of lawyer that gets child molesters set free on a technicality, but then again, It's all about the hustle

Username checks out.

[HiSpec]

Consider yourself lucky if you are given the 4 squares. I emailed two dealerships for an itemized price breakdown on a specific RAV4s they have in their inventory and they didn’t even bother to reply. I even gave them the purchase timeframe and even alternative paint colour to make their job easier.

[ExtraSlow]

You'll never see the 4 squares in email, or be permitted to take a copy with you. The math in them doesn't work, and would be fraud in many cases.
4 square is strictly for in-person same-day deals.

[Rocket1k78]

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You'll never see the 4 squares in email, or be permitted to take a copy with you. The math in them doesn't work, and would be fraud in many cases.
4 square is strictly for in-person same-day deals.

I had my first 4 square experience last summer at universal ford and the marth definitely doesnt check out. They conned me in with an extremely high trade in value and said they had the same trim as mine but a new one in stock so i figured i got lucky. They had me there for awhile too and no matter what the numbers just didnt make sense but i guess thats the point of that fucking thing.

[Buster]

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You'll never see the 4 squares in email, or be permitted to take a copy with you. The math in them doesn't work, and would be fraud in many cases.
4 square is strictly for in-person same-day deals.

Grab it and run?

[XylathaneGTR]

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Grab it and run?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJh1hmmLLzw

[tcon]

Perusing WRX's there seems to be an awfully big supply yet they are all over priced. Some ads have been up for weeks or months.

[Xtrema]

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Consider yourself lucky if you are given the 4 squares. I emailed two dealerships for an itemized price breakdown on a specific RAV4s they have in their inventory and they didn’t even bother to reply. I even gave them the purchase timeframe and even alternative paint colour to make their job easier.

Not answering is easier. People who pay the "added services" get ahead in the queue. Cousin got a quote from Henninger for Highlander, $52K MSRP, $64K OTD with low key mention that wait time is 4 months to 1 year if you get the drift.

BTW who's the Toyota goto on Beyond again?

[2Legit2Quit]

^ Ryan @ Red Deer Toyota