Am I crazy or is this the worst time ever to buy a vehicle?

[killramos]

I think I’ll list my 05 mustang for $20k lol

[Tik-Tok]

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It must be, that's what our buyers are telling us. They don't want to quote on anything other than "1". If they do it's considerably less.

I can't find any evidence of an actual tariff being implemented. I'm thinking it's more of a "easier to sell 'mericuhn made" thing.

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I think I’ll list my 05 mustang for $20k lol

I 'member having a hard time selling my '05 GT for $25g in 2008,

[you&me]

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I can't find any evidence of an actual tariff being implemented. I'm thinking it's more of a "easier to sell 'mericuhn made" thing.

That might be it, but I've never seen it.

Now, if we're talking about a premium for trucks that were originally sold in the US (mph speedo, etc) vs Canadian-delivered (km/h, etc), then that is a thing but it's also based on actual costs like speedo conversions for the US importer... If zehnd is selling his Canadian-built trucks to US buyers for a 20% discount because they told him so, I have a bridge to sell him

There is no duty or other tariff on Canadian-built vehicles going into the US.

[Twin_Cam_Turbo]

Actually there is a tariff on Canadian and Mexican made trucks built prior to 07/20 that were sold new in Canada originally if they are exported to the USA to be resold. That means 1, 4 and 5 VINs are safe and 2 and 3 VINs are not. It’s literally just a fallback to the chicken tax from way back.

Doesn’t take long to find a simple article on google: https://canadianautodealer.ca/2020/0...may-be-tricky/

[mrsingh]

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Saw this 2018 Lamborghini Aventador on autoTRADER.ca's iPhone app
http://www.autotrader.ca/go/5-51361011

2022 Evo would be delivered by Jan- potentially feb (incurring 10% tax). Leaning toward the v12 at this point, it’s not much more and is the natural progression from V8 —> V10 —> V12...

I think the evo would hold value near term, but may not hold as well as the Aventador over 5+ years. Tough call.

I have no other comment except, that colour is fire!

[you&me]

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Actually there is a tariff on Canadian and Mexican made trucks built prior to 07/20 that were sold new in Canada originally if they are exported to the USA to be resold. That means 1, 4 and 5 VINs are safe and 2 and 3 VINs are not. It’s literally just a fallback to the chicken tax from way back.

Doesn’t take long to find a simple article on google: https://canadianautodealer.ca/2020/0...may-be-tricky/

I guess my pre-USMCA export experience is showing - thanks for the article.

Apologies to zehnd...

[rage2]

Adding to this, manufacturers are cutting hard on features to still pump out vehicles during shortage. GM is removing fucking start stop.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/06...-2021-gm-suvs/

Tesla famously cut lumbar support in their seats without changing price. BMW cut seat massager and lumbar support but discounted the value. I have an order for a new car and am very damn close to cancelling. So far I’ve lost massage seats, arm and center console heaters, rear seat heaters, and today the dashcam feature. Price cut around 5k but god damn the cars getting butchered. Rumors is wireless charging is next, already been cut in lower models.

Might as well just keep my car at this point. Was hoping to beat the luxury tax.

[TomcoPDR]

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Adding to this, manufacturers are cutting hard on features to still pump out vehicles during shortage. GM is removing fucking start stop.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/06...-2021-gm-suvs/

Tesla famously cut lumbar support in their seats without changing price. BMW cut seat massager and lumbar support but discounted the value. I have an order for a new car and am very damn close to cancelling. So far I’ve lost massage seats, arm and center console heaters, rear seat heaters, and today the dashcam feature. Price cut around 5k but god damn the cars getting butchered. Rumors is wireless charging is next, already been cut in lower models.

Might as well just keep my car at this point. Was hoping to beat the luxury tax.

The bright side is, you save $5k, and still able to prove to haters it was fully loaded at time of production vs. being accused of cheaping out

[Buster]

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Adding to this, manufacturers are cutting hard on features to still pump out vehicles during shortage. GM is removing fucking start stop.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/06...-2021-gm-suvs/

Tesla famously cut lumbar support in their seats without changing price. BMW cut seat massager and lumbar support but discounted the value. I have an order for a new car and am very damn close to cancelling. So far I’ve lost massage seats, arm and center console heaters, rear seat heaters, and today the dashcam feature. Price cut around 5k but god damn the cars getting butchered. Rumors is wireless charging is next, already been cut in lower models.

Might as well just keep my car at this point. Was hoping to beat the luxury tax.

Just more evidence to prove my theory that the new car market is hot.

[killramos]

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Just more evidence to prove my theory that the new car market is hot.

[Maxx Mazda]

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Adding to this, manufacturers are cutting hard on features to still pump out vehicles during shortage. GM is removing fucking start stop.

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2021/06...-2021-gm-suvs/

Tesla famously cut lumbar support in their seats without changing price. BMW cut seat massager and lumbar support but discounted the value. I have an order for a new car and am very damn close to cancelling. So far I’ve lost massage seats, arm and center console heaters, rear seat heaters, and today the dashcam feature. Price cut around 5k but god damn the cars getting butchered. Rumors is wireless charging is next, already been cut in lower models.

Might as well just keep my car at this point. Was hoping to beat the luxury tax.

They're removing a horrible feature and giving customers a $50 credit for it. Win in my books! Start stop sucks.

[Buster]

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They're removing a horrible feature and giving customers a $50 credit for it. Win in my books! Start stop sucks.

seriously. I'd PAY to have start/stop removed. fuck that EPA/CAFE manipulating bullsheeet.

[rage2]

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seriously. I'd PAY to have start/stop removed. fuck that EPA/CAFE manipulating bullsheeet.

I don't think it's manipulation, I mean it really does make a difference in fuel economy if you care about such a thing. The difference in fuel economy in rush hour traffic with and without start stop is massive.

You're right tho, classic start stop is terrible in execution.

[Buster]

I dont care about such a thing. C02 foreva

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I dont care about such a thing. C02 foreva

Still not manipulation haha.

[beyond_ban]

I am late to this thread, but i was just in Kelowna and met a friend who owns dealerships in Calgary, Leth and Lloyd. Let's just say he has been doing well, as he spends $2k/day in fuel for one of his boats. He mentioned usually he is carrying around $55m in inventory, but that has been reduced to $25m as he has been able to clear out a bunch of stale stock with the manufacturing shortages.

[BavarianBeast]

I was offered a trx today at MSRP. Should I take it?

[4WARNED]

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i was offered a trx today at msrp. Should i take it?

yolo

[killramos]

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I was offered a trx today at MSRP. Should I take it?

Do you want it?

[jutes]

Stupid pointless trucks.

I’d love to own one.