215 bodies in Kamloops mass childrens grave.

[Buster]

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we fucked up bad.

"We"?

I didn't do shit.

[duaner]

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If memory serves, the last one closed in the 90’s but the functionality as what we know them as faded out in the 70’s (please correct if wrong)

Interesting point. It was briefly mentioned in class as though it had been operational, but progressives these days like to twist facts. Although, an Indigenous co-worker recently gave a presentation about Indigenous trauma and implied that the last school was functional. Either way, neither source made it clear, so I can't say.

[killramos]

If you believed half the things the progressives have to say the schools were intentionally designed and operated as literal death camps by personal order of the Pope and Langevin, oh and all the other white people in this country and every other country.

[duaner]

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If you believed half the things the progressives have to say the schools were intentionally designed and operated as literal death camps by personal order of the Pope and Langevin, oh and all the other white people in this country and every other country.

That's why Buster is guilty. All us whities are guilty of every single crime by every white person that ever existed. The sooner we all realize this, the sooner racism will be gone.

[finboy]

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Interesting point. It was briefly mentioned in class as though it had been operational, but progressives these days like to twist facts. Although, an Indigenous co-worker recently gave a presentation about Indigenous trauma and implied that the last school was functional. Either way, neither source made it clear, so I can't say.

The term “last school closed in 1996” is a half truth that doesn’t do much to bolster the case anyone saying it is trying to make.

- These schools were terrible
-these schools haven’t been active at oppression for near 50 years
-“we” didn’t do it no matter how much the government tries to pass blame around the room, a select number of bureaucrats and the Catholic Church did this with tax payer money
-this makes a strong case for NOT giving more power to the exact same type of people who implemented these monstrosities in the first place, reduce government power and the “system” has less capability to make lives awful

[Misterman]

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Noble intentions eh



https://forums.beyond.ca/threads/364...53#post4848453

Perfect. There is the memory jog gwill needs. Not that it will help I'm sure.

[Misterman]

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We can't keep apologizing as a nation - we either have to shit or get off the pot as far as actions go to make amends and help these people that we fucked up bad.

Great, but how? Every time there is any talk of anything meaningful to help these people long term, like cancelling a lot of these incentives to lock them on reserve land, it's deemed racist and heartless by them and the left wing that wants to keep them locked there forever.

[killramos]

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Great, but how? Every time there is any talk of anything meaningful to help these people long term, like cancelling a lot of these incentives to lock them on reserve land, it's deemed racist and heartless by them and the left wing that wants to keep them locked there forever.

Money. The answer is always money.

[mr2mike]

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We also learned that these different tribes regularly fought against each other for land, there was a large war between tribes titled the "indian war" in the 18th Century. They were brutal against one another. This is very different than the nomadic tribes on the prairies would regularly work together just to survive the brutal winters.

Arguably, they were at war too.
Wonder when that will get acknowledged. Will each tribe start paying out one another for former atrocities?
This is a really good gig if you can get paid to do nothing but disagree and run some basic rhetoric to a pay day. Been very lucrative in the last decade.

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Money. The answer is always money.

Yes, Trans mountain pipeline got a lot of tribes decent money.
Take an easy browse through who got paid last go around.
Indigenous groups account for 82% of the $5M awarded.

Allocation of Funds for Participation in the Public Reconsideration Hearing for the Trans Mountain Expansion Project

https://www.cer-rec.gc.ca/en/applica...n-project.html

[killramos]

Participation is a synonym for paid off in Canada.

[AndyL]

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We can't keep apologizing as a nation - we either have to shit or get off the pot as far as actions go to make amends and help these people that we fucked up bad.

Remember trudeaus "clean water to the reserves" election promise?

https://globalnews.ca/news/7836421/f...oken-promises/

Yeah - Maybe once we deal with ONE basic election promise - we can start on others...

5+ years now, they claim to have removed 107 - but some of the ones they claim removed - have boil water orders again. But hey ISC is throwing another 739 million at the problem this year. Winning! I mean that big bearspaw WTP expansion in 2011 was 170m - think we'll see any results?

[Buster]

where's kert...he should be here claiming that the best solution to all of this is to physically divide people based on race.

[hampstor]

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Great, but how? Every time there is any talk of anything meaningful to help these people long term, like cancelling a lot of these incentives to lock them on reserve land, it's deemed racist and heartless by them and the left wing that wants to keep them locked there forever.

The TRC call to action has a big list of things to work through. Its non partisan so any lefties can gfto if they accuse these actions of being racist.

[gwill]

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Noble intentions eh



https://forums.beyond.ca/threads/364...53#post4848453

Hah yeah misterman was on of the guys talking about how noble intentions were behind our residential schools. Oh man.

Nothing to see here folks. Just hundreds of dead kids. Don't worry their intentions were noble.

[Misterman]

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Hah yeah misterman was on of the guys talking about how noble intentions were behind our residential schools. Oh man.

Nothing to see here folks. Just hundreds of dead kids. Don't worry their intentions were noble.

Oh strange, you still don't have the faintest understanding of a single thing you're talking about. I would have expected you had learned so much by now..............

[Misterman]

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The TRC call to action has a big list of things to work through. Its non partisan so any lefties can gfto if they accuse these actions of being racist.

Which is another steaming pile of nothing that perpetuates a lot of backwards thinking to exacerbate the issue. At least they ask for an apology from the Pope, which is fair, however still useless in treating the problem.

[Power_Of_Rotary]

Canada has been executing genocide on natives for years.

The slow approach was giving natives free money (9k per adult?) and tax free booze/cigarettes.

[jutes]

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Hah yeah misterman was on of the guys talking about how noble intentions were behind our residential schools. Oh man.

Nothing to see here folks. Just hundreds of dead kids. Don't worry their intentions were noble.

People don’t care, it’s that simple. Once whatever hashtag stops being trendy the news cycle will go back to Covid. We have no idea how these kids died, but everyone seems to believe like they discovered remains from a concentration camp in Eastern Europe. Canada is the only country where the conquerers need to payoff the conquered.

[mr2mike]

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Hah yeah misterman was on of the guys talking about how noble intentions were behind our residential schools. Oh man.

Nothing to see here folks. Just hundreds of dead kids. Don't worry their intentions were noble.

Not saying it wasn't wrong how it was conducted. It's a very bad situation and discovery. Residential schools did start with the best intentions.
It's not like the Aboriginal communities were full of nobleman and every child would have become scholars staying in their community.
I'm sure they'd tell you that was the case though.

A lot die from abuse within their own community now. You're telling me this is a recent phenomenon?
I'm sure if you asked Parliament back then, there was an outcry from everyone regarding aboriginal children abuse, drug and alcohol addiction.

Someone had to be witness to the living conditions within their community to stuff this many dollars and buildings built to do this program over decades.

But I'm sure the answer is that it wasn't ENOUGH money spent or given.

[mr2mike]

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Eastern Europe. Canada is the only country where the conquerers need to payoff the conquered.

Agreed. European explorers had the biggest guns and better technology. End of story.
The European and Asia map has been rewritten hundreds of times. No payments made.

You know why there's very few aboriginal people in the USA? Take a guess.