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    Default Dell bans gaming PC sales for shipment to BC.

    Alienware Aurora A12

    "This product cannot be shipped to the Province of British Columbia due to adopted power consumption regulations (B.C. Reg. 14/2015). Any orders placed that are bound to this Province will be cancelled."

    As for the USA

    "This product cannot be shipped to the states of California, Colorado, Hawaii, Oregon, Vermont or Washington due to power consumption regulations adopted by those states. Any orders placed that are bound for those states will be canceled."
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    Eh nothing to do with the PSU. This is based off of California Energy Commission regulations that were adopted by other states/provinces. Fairly strict guidelines around idle wattage usage with zero margin for error. Being a regulatory requirement means there is likely a big ole fine associated with shipping products to customers in places where this is in place.

    Source: Am in the industry.


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    Shouldn't be getting an Alienware anyway. They're not that great.
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    Technically the sales ban is on any computer built by any manufacturer that exceeds 75 Kwh? assuming normal usage. So idle consumption becomes more important than peak.

    Any manufacturer is liable if they sell to a state or province that has the ban.
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    Look at the garbage Dell is putting in their prebuilts and you will see they are in fact doing all those places a favor.

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    It's kind of a shame, their laptops are rated very well especially in terms of heat. Don't know why their desktops are such garbage
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    Quote Originally Posted by Asian_defender View Post
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    It's kind of a shame, their laptops are rated very well especially in terms of heat. Don't know why their desktops are such garbage
    Review of the Ryzen Aurora
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    Yup they are full of proprietary junk, inadequate cooling, and absolute bottom of the barrel 'in-house' GPUs. Their laptops are much better (minus their reluctance to go Ryzen for best performance/batterylife/temps), it's odd there is such a disconnect there.
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    I believe the one they are selling for California use is a 12VO. Meaning it is not a standard power supply and does not do 5 or 3.3 volt.
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    Man is this a real thing now? I'm all for enforcing higher efficiency but restricting sales because of high idle power?! Dang..

    If only those people knew about crypto mining and data centres ha!

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    One crazy good thing about it is that it mates well with solar and lithium iron phosphate battery technology.

    A singular 12 volt rail can be run off a lithium iron phosphate without any regulation circuitry.
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    No it can't. A psu 12v rail is much tighter tolerances than a 12v battery/solar system runs at. A full charged battery, at 13-14v, would damage your computer without a proper regulator

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    I've been told you cant run lithium ion without a regulator for any 12 volt device. But Lithium iron phosphate maintains its voltages throughout 90% of its discharge curve.

    Its potentially a game changer.
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    No, you should never be connecting computers 12v rail directly to a LifePo4 battery...

    LifePo4 Batteries range from 2.5V (10.0V) dead, up to charged 3.6V (14.4V).

    ATX2.2 specifies that a 12V rail must be within 5%. +11.4 VDC +12.6 VDC.

    You also need some control circuitry to stop the computer from over discharging the batteries.

    Computers also need 5V, 3.3V, and -12V rails which a proper PSU will provide. If you actually wanted to solar power a computer use a DC-DC PSU.

    Regardless, I fail to see how batteries and solar panels are relevant to regulations about minimum consumption regulation.

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    This only affects pre-builts, most of them are garbage or a total rip off anyway.
    It's better to just build your own or have memory express put one together for you if you're not wanting/can't do it yourself.

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