GMC Sierra vs Toyota Tundra

[SKR]

The best truck is the one you like and can afford. They all do the same job.

Whatever you buy, if you're buying new either buy a 1500 or a 3500. There are no advantages anymore to a 2500.

[ThePenIsMightier]

The inflated prices paid for Toyota products are recovered in 2 years* when you find the next shiny thing to hurl cash at. They depreciate less and continue to sell for inflated prices above the US Big 3. So, it kind of comes out in the wash.

*2 weeks if Shak

[cyra1ax]

I'm a GM fan but I wouldn't get a Silverado/Sierra this year, GM has been cutting features left right and centre(cylinder deactivation, HD Radio, rear seat heat, auto start/stop) in order to save on computer chips.

[firebane]

You want a truck that can actually work? Get the big 3
Want a truck to camp and wear sandals? Toyota.

[Darell_n]

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You want a truck that can actually work? Get the big 3
Want a truck to camp and wear sandals? Toyota.

Perfect summary. As for the big 3, pick the one you like the looks of best. Every domestic truck brand is 50/50 greatness and complete shit.

[Brent.ff]

Toyota fanboy checking in... will be looking at the 22 tundra when its actually released. If the fuel economy is as bad as the current one...ill stick with the taco

[2020]

I was going to jump on the cheap Ford F-150 lease deal earlier this year but couldn’t part with my reliable 05 tundra with 460km. Going to try and hit 500,000km and wait on the 2022 tundra. Hopefully the new one will have some sweet tech inside and better fuel economy numbers. I’d trust a Toyota turbo motor more than a Ford turbo motor.

[SJW]

6.2L GMC owner here. My dick has grown three sizes since owning this truck.

Front Shocks are terrible and blew out at 110,000 km. Other than that problem free.

[Tik-Tok]

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(cylinder deactivation, HD Radio, rear seat heat, auto start/stop)

Does anyone actually WANT those things? I paid money to have the cylinder deactivation, de-activated.

[cyra1ax]

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Does anyone actually WANT those things? I paid money to have the cylinder deactivation, de-activated.

I mean....HD Radio and rear seat heat are nice to haves. I agree with you on the cylinder deactivation and auto start/stop though.

[killramos]

HD radio sounds like a scam if u have ever heard one

[Tik-Tok]

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HD radio sounds like a scam if u have ever heard one

I had to google it, there's a whole entire two stations in Calgary. Talk radio, and Country 105... I know I definitely need to listen about how my ex shot my dog, my pick-ups in the ditch, and my grandaughter is on facebook too much, in HD.

[killramos]

I struggle to remember the last I used a “radio”

[ShermanEF9]

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I’d trust a Toyota turbo motor more than a Ford turbo motor.

The engine thats been around for 10 years, or a new motor. Nope, gonna trust the Ford on this one.

[Kloubek]

All I can say after working at a dealership is that if you consider GM, expect leaking hoses. The amount of connections I saw leaking on vehicles only one or two years old was, quite frankly, embarrassing.

They also had a real tough time with DPF system failures on diesel engines - which, during my time there, they had no solution for. Last I heard, someone with such an issue had their entire exhaust replaced as an attempted fix. Not certain they have that dialed in yet...

[killramos]

Doesn’t the Ford motor (all the Ford motors really) still have major unsolved issues to this day (hence leasing them for 24mo).

Or have I been reading the Ford thread wrong?

[Tik-Tok]

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I struggle to remember the last I used a “radio”

But just imagine how great 40min per hour of commercials and shitty DJ's will sound in HD!

Re: Ford's, I thought the two year lease thing was to optimize dealership profits by selling to the US?

[killramos]

That’s not what the people in the Ford thread told me

[SkiBum5.0]

Nothing like a good truck thread to get the juices going on a Sat morning. OP, buy the truck you like most. I’m sure the new Tundra will be fine. All the trucks are similar from a reliability standard, with each having gremlins. I would think 15 years would allow Toyota to get it right.

[zechs]

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Or have I been reading the Ford thread wrong?

The 2.7 ecoboost has zero known long term issues beyond typical modern engine problems (carbon buildup, ignition components like coil packs and plugs). Considering the motor has been available since 2015 or 2016, I think its safe to say that its a properly designed and built engine.

The 3.5 has many issues for sure. I don't even think the 5.0L has much for issues (occasional oil consumption issues, but this is relatively rare).

But the 3.5 is very popular, so I have no doubt it seems like the Ford's have a lot of problems. Tough to pass up 400+hp and 500tq.

While I'm not sold on Ford's or F150's after having had mine for a year, the 2.7 is an incredible motor. I have zero concerns about longterm durability, which is pretty rare considering the internet will let you know if an engine has a 1% chance of having an issue.

I'm more worried about transmissions as mine still occasionally clunks and bangs, but there are so many 10 speeds out there a low mileage junkyard tranny is $1000.