The Acura Integra is Back For 2022

[Shlade]

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The last true American muscle car.

[benyl]

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GT86, Toyota Supra, Lexus IS500, LFA, vs CTR and the NSX. I dont think you can even call out Toyota any more. Toyota at least gives a half ass effort here and there, Honda is the worst of the worst by a long shot.

GT86 = Subaru
Supra = BMW
The IS500 is standard Muscle car (drop a big engine into an otherwise standard car). But ok. Although, it’s using the same engine from the original ISF that is over 10 years old. So, basically a new ISF without calling it an ISF.
LFA is 12 years old and was a Halo car that even rich people couldn’t buy.

So, really both Toyota and Honda follow the same formula by throwing a couple of bones to the fan boys once in a while.

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Clearly you missed the flagship halo car that was the 2012-2017 Accord V6 Coupe (with 6 speed manual, affectionately known amongst performance enthusiasts as the "6-6" ) 0-60 in a front tire scorching 5.6 seconds with the 1/4 mile passing by in a scant 14.0 seconds flat at 103 mph.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...l-test-review/

My Bad.

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How about the GR Yaris? I know it's not sold here but Toyota spent a ton of money developing that car.

[benyl]

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How about the GR Yaris? I know it's not sold here but Toyota spent a ton of money developing that car.

Yes, bone thrown to fanboys in Europe and Mexico. But without the requirement to homologate, do you think they would have built it?

[Xtrema]

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How about the GR Yaris? I know it's not sold here but Toyota spent a ton of money developing that car.

They are only building 25k because that's the WRC rule. They didn't do it for the fans.

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Kind of underwhelming. I realize it's a bit of a challenge to make that coupe rear end of the Civic look good but they kind of failed as it looks like a poor-man's CLA from the rear.

[Xtrema]

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kind of underwhelming. I realize it's a bit of a challenge to make that coupe rear end of the civic look good but they kind of failed as it looks like a poor-man's Genesis coupe from the rear.

ftfy

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I knew this car was going to disappoint 15 pages ago… Honda sux

[ExtraSlow]

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kind of underwhelming. I realize it's a bit of a challenge to make that coupe rear end of the civic look good but they kind of failed as it looks like a poor-man's stinger from the rear.

ftfy

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I knew this car was going to suck 15 years ago

[rc2002]

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GT86, Toyota Supra, Lexus IS500, LFA, vs CTR and the NSX. I dont think you can even call out Toyota any more. Toyota at least gives a half ass effort here and there, Honda is the worst of the worst by a long shot.

Other Japanese contenders for the crown:

Nissan GTR has gone virtually unchanged since 2007 and can no longer be sold in some countries because it no longer meets safety regulations. The upcoming Z is using a variation of the 2003 350Z FM platform.

Subaru STi has used the same engine (EJ) since the first gen Sti in 1994.

Mazda and Mitsubishi have just rolled over and given up.

[Buster]

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Its a crossover lol
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Dafuq is this Acura?

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Other Japanese contenders for the crown:

Nissan GTR has gone virtually unchanged since 2007 and can no longer be sold in some countries because it no longer meets safety regulations. The upcoming Z is using a variation of the 2003 350Z FM platform...

Is the new 400z modeled on the 2003 350z? Please elaborate on how. Why would they do that when the 370z was right there and several years newer??!?

Regarding the R35 GTR. if you could please elaborate on what countries have refused to admit it since its radical technology allegedly refused to conform to whatever regulations has left it behind. You know,... Aside from Japan and North America at the very least.

I am eager to learn.

[Pauly Boy]

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Is the new 400z modeled on the 2003 350z? Please elaborate on how. Why would they do that when the 370z was right there and several years newer??!?.

I have no idea about the GTR safety issues, but the 370 is on the same FM platform as the 350. The 400 is going to be a modified version of it as well.

That being said, it's not uncommon for manufacturers to use the same platform for 20+ years with tweaks every generation. For example, Chevrolet used the same Y platform for the Corvette from the 80s right up until 2019...

[Team_Mclaren]

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Is the new 400z modeled on the 2003 350z? Please elaborate on how. Why would they do that when the 370z was right there and several years newer??!?

Regarding the R35 GTR. if you could please elaborate on what countries have refused to admit it since its radical technology allegedly refused to conform to whatever regulations has left it behind. You know,... Aside from Japan and North America at the very least.

I am eager to learn.

You were in the 400Z thread which has been discussed that it uses the same platform as the 350z.
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...arison-visual/


R35 news
https://www.motor1.com/news/532908/n...l-safety-test/

[ThePenIsMightier]

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You were in the 400Z thread which has been discussed that it uses the same platform as the 350z.
https://www.motortrend.com/features/...arison-visual/


R35 news
https://www.motor1.com/news/532908/n...l-safety-test/

I do recall that thread. I wish I was more proficient. I just keep seeing 370z and not 350z...
If the middle number is different, does that make it still the same? Being a guy that says random things and thinks they're true would seem pretty lame, here. But if a 350z = 370z because someone who's never owned either says so, then I am happy to be proven wrong. I just need to be re-educated.

Can we say "it's basically a Versa" next because it's made by the same company? Shall we then stretch that to "pffftt this is a Datsun 510"??!

I defer to your expertise on what we call this.

[90_Shelby]

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That being said, it's not uncommon for manufacturers to use the same platform for 20+ years with tweaks every generation. For example, Chevrolet used the same Y platform for the Corvette from the 80s right up until 2019...

Y platform simply denotes the 4th character of the VIN and specifies, front engine, rear wheel drive, 4 wheel independent suspension. By this description, GM used the same “Y platform” starting in 1961 with the Pontiac Tempest and also used that platform in 2019 with the C7 Vette, but that’s where the similarities end.

Although there are many similarities between the C5 (1997) to C7 (2019), the C4 from the 80’s shares nothing with the later generations. The C5 was a brand new chassis design from the C4 and it continued to evolve in the C6 and C7.

Back on topic, I previously owned a 2000 Integra, it was a good, reliable commuter car. I’m guessing this new one will also fit that description.

[killramos]

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I do recall that thread. I wish I was more proficient. I just keep seeing 370z and not 350z...
If the middle number is different, does that make it still the same? Being a guy that says random things and thinks they're true would seem pretty lame, here. But if a 350z = 370z because someone who's never owned either says so, then I am happy to be proven wrong. I just need to be re-educated.

Can we say "it's basically a Versa" next because it's made by the same company? Shall we then stretch that to "pffftt this is a Datsun 510"??!.

I’ll allow it.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Y platform simply denotes the 4th character of the VIN and specifies, front engine, rear wheel drive, 4 wheel independent suspension. By this description, GM used the same “Y platform” starting in 1961 with the Pontiac Tempest and also used that platform in 2019 with the C7 Vette, but that’s where the similarities end.

Although there are many similarities between the C5 (1997) to C7 (2019), the C4 from the 80’s shares nothing with the later generations. The C5 was a brand new chassis design from the C4 and it continued to evolve in the C6 and C7...

Yes. It seems silly for automotive journalists (LoL) to overuse the term "same platform" and then sillier when that spills into the public because in so many cases, it's not a useful thing to say.

[Misterman]

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Dafuq is this Acura?

It's exactly what anyone with any sense should've expected.