Canada Federal Election 2021

[zechs]

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They are?

New covid cases. You can't use current hospital figures to judge where we are right now in covid going up or down as it has a lag of almost 2 weeks.

Deaths and new cases were way down Monday. I'm not making a claim we are out of the woods. Just that overall new cases are down, which should see a reduction in overall hospitalizations going forward.

For instance, deaths jumped to 26 yesterday. I guess a whole bunch of people decided to not die Monday (I am being morbid, just very odd the way the stats come and go).

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Regardless of their margin of victory, more people are in favor of the Conservatives leading the country than the Liberals.

#electionreform

That's the same rationale that says "most of the people live in Ontario & Quebec, so they should decide the election" and how's that working out for us?

[dirtsniffer]

conservatives shouldn't want election form. Likely will end up with ranked ballot or some shit that locks conservatives out forever.

maybe we could allocate ridings by gdp

[ExtraSlow]

Buster is right guys, there is no amount of tinkering with the process that will materially benefit Alberta. None. No amount of voter reform or constitutional adjustments will give Alberta significantly more control over anything.
If you want major change, you want separation.

[davidI]

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Again, it's not about riding size that causes the Liberals to lose the popular vote. When an NHL team wins 9-1 they get the same 2 points for the win as they would have if they won 3-1.
In many areas where Conservatives win, they trounce while in many areas that Liberals win, they simply win. But each victory only gives one seat.
Revisiting my previous example, let's compare Hair Justin to Barlow and Rempel.
The PM of the fucking country, the Golden Child, The Leader only won by 12k votes in his riding (Papineau).
Rempel won by 17k votes in Nose Hill and John Barlow win by 36k votes in Foothills (actually, 38k more than the Foothills Liberal).

So, you've got Barlow who's a back-bencher and Rempel (who I'm not sure if she'd hold a cabinet position with the Conservatives in power) doing radically better than the most recognizable Liberal who should be cruising to victory in his riding.
Those add up to Conservatives "winning" the meaningless popular vote.

Your example doesn't really makes any sense.

In a hockey game the 9-1 score would be the goals (votes) which would be equivalent to the popular vote.

Yes, the fact 9-1 or 3-1 only gets you 2 points (or a single seat) is the electoral ridings. The fact you get the same points (seats) even if you get 3x the number of goals, is why the popular vote is different from the number of ridings won.

The reason the electorate size matters is the exact same as your "trounce" examples.

The Liberals received 15k votes in Laurentides-Labelle, which would have won in a riding with an electorate of 30k, but the Block received 30k votes so they got the seat. The fact there were 90k voters in the electorate makes the 15k Liberal votes meaningless.

The Conservatives received 14k more votes in Simcoe-Grey, 30k more in Edmonton-Wetaskawin, 19k more in North Okanagan, 30k more in Calgary Shepard, etc. but of course, each riding only counts for a single seat.

If the riding was broken in to 2 districts of 45-50k instead of 90k+, that would likely result in 2 seats for the winning party rather than 1. The issue is that in some ridings, a ballot can count 5x as much as in another (i.e. a riding of 18k electors vs. a riding of 105k electors).

[Buster]

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Buster is right guys, there is no amount of tinkering with the process that will materially benefit Alberta. None. No amount of voter reform or constitutional adjustments will give Alberta significantly more control over anything.
If you want major change, you want separation.

It's funny that Western Canadians think they are simply part of a malformed but fixable democratic system, rather than some weird colonialist structure. But when faced with the only actual solution, they turn into pussies and turtle.

[ExtraSlow]

Turtling does sound like the most popular option. I'm still not certain it's not my preferred option as well. But I was a pussy long before this conversation started.

[Disoblige]

Should have separated long ago, not now. As much as the "Fuck Trudeau" spacers fan club will be the loudest on their thoughts on this, they will be the first to turtle when it gets serious, just like when they need to take the jab to keep their job.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Your example doesn't really makes any sense.

In a hockey game the 9-1 score would be the goals (votes) which would be equivalent to the popular vote.

Yes, the fact 9-1 or 3-1 only gets you 2 points (or a single seat) is the electoral ridings. The fact you get the same points (seats) even if you get 3x the number of goals, is why the popular vote is different from the number of ridings won.

The reason the electorate size matters is the exact same as your "trounce" examples.

The Liberals received 15k votes in Laurentides-Labelle, which would have won in a riding with an electorate of 30k, but the Block received 30k votes so they got the seat. The fact there were 90k voters in the electorate makes the 15k Liberal votes meaningless.

The Conservatives received 14k more votes in Simcoe-Grey, 30k more in Edmonton-Wetaskawin, 19k more in North Okanagan, 30k more in Calgary Shepard, etc. but of course, each riding only counts for a single seat.

If the riding was broken in to 2 districts of 45-50k instead of 90k+, that would likely result in 2 seats for the winning party rather than 1. The issue is that in some ridings, a ballot can count 5x as much as in another (i.e. a riding of 18k electors vs. a riding of 105k electors).

I don't think I'm wrong. I think it's more that we're both right. Both items are contributing.

[4WARNED]

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When I heard the Prime Minister got re-elected, I didn't believe it.

It's Trudeau.

Dads need to stick together. It's our cross to bear and pass these jokes onto our children.

[davidI]

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I don't think I'm wrong. I think it's more that we're both right. Both items are contributing.

Yes, I didn't say otherwise.

The reason the electorate size matters is the exact same as your "trounce" examples.

[JRSC00LUDE]

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It's funny that Western Canadians think they are simply part of a malformed but fixable democratic system, rather than some weird colonialist structure. But when faced with the only actual solution, they turn into pussies and turtle.

What they SHOULD do is join the FN in the push to deconstruct colonialism. Which takes us—in a roundabout way—back to the Bloc. haha

[e31]

Shit-Leopard Liberals can never change their shit-spots. Reference #937824: George Chahal
https://calgaryherald.com/news/elect...e-45b9ba197fb2

Caught on doorbell camera stealing from someones mailbox while delivering pamphlets. That's a Federal crime last I checked.

[Tik-Tok]

That's the third time this has been posted today. Would have been nice if the person released in a couple of days ago.

[dirtsniffer]

https://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/politi...rcmp-1.5597229

[zechs]

Amazing how that came out AFTER the election. Hmmmmm

[littledan]

Of course cbc has comments turned off on this story lol. So transparent

[Xtrema]

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Of course cbc has comments turned off on this story lol. So transparent

a) That's CTV.

b) I thought comment section is no longer a thing with MSM news sites/articles. Especially CBC.

[littledan]

I was referring to the CBC article on the same topic. They pick and choose which stories will be allowed to have comments and consistently have no comments on stories that are negative for the Liberals.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/snc...ests-1.6186673

[zechs]

Wow, the Liberals sure had a lot planned for immediately after the election.

Convict SNC execs with crimes - would have pissed off Quebec voters

Give SNC a deferred prosecution agreement (JWR would not give this to them)
https://westernstandardonline.com/20...ail-free-card/

Huawei CEO case effectively abandoned, will be interesting to see how much of Canada's soul Trudeau sold to get this done.

It is insane how corrupt the Liberal government is.