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    FYI Co-Op 91 in the South (Shawnessy and Deer Run) is still ethanol free. Their pump sticker does not lie (87/89 yes ethanol, 91 no ethanol)

    Their website says Dalhousie and McLeod Trail locations do contain ethanol though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ca_Silvia13 View Post
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    Had this chat with my brother too. Basically have to store the toys empty and fill them up in the spring. This ethanol gas does not store very well at all.

    2 month old gas in my Ruckus and it wouldn't start.
    I thought when you store empty, the tank condensates and you get water

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipstah View Post
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    I thought when you store empty, the tank condensates and you get water
    I believe that is an old school train of thought when gas tanks were all steel. My Ruckus tank is aluminum so it shouldn't matter

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    Quote Originally Posted by M.alex View Post
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    Very disappointing Shell is carrying shit gas now.
    Given all gas come out of Scotford, would be surprised 10% ethanol would be BC only. It's cheaper just to make 1 thing instead of 2.

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    FYI Co-Op 91 in the South (Shawnessy and Deer Run) is still ethanol free. Their pump sticker does not lie (87/89 yes ethanol, 91 no ethanol)

    Their website says Dalhousie and McLeod Trail locations do contain ethanol though.

    Safe ... for now.
    https://www.calgarycoop.com/our-stor...nded-gasoline/

    Let's hope ethanol stay out of Premium at Hamptons. Co-Op is the only place I get gas from now.

    Please note premium gasoline at Macleod Trail, Dalhousie and Montrose also contains up to 10% ethanol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    Given all gas come out of Scotford, would be surprised 10% ethanol would be BC only. It's cheaper just to make 1 thing instead of 2.



    https://www.calgarycoop.com/our-stor...nded-gasoline/

    Let's hope ethanol stay out of Premium at Hamptons. Co-Op is the only place I get gas from now.
    I wonder why some co-op locations premium would contain ethanol and some wouldn't - you'd think it comes from the same source for all stores? (I tested and confirmed 2 locations in the south today) Unless it has to do with different store ownership maybe.

    Until ~2 weeks ago Shell was definately ethanol free. I have a jerry can I filled up 2 weeks ago at McKenzie Shell - 0% ethanol. Same location today - 10% (and every Shell location I tried)
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    My guess is that they are testing the waters to see if they lose any business at those locations due to ethanol.
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    The average consumer doesn't care about their fuel and just fills up.

    Those of us who don't want it are a very small group and don't matter.

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    This will really get @M.alex 's panties in a knot.

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    The math is simple, E98 is like 75cents wholesale. Huge boost to profit margins mixing it in with premium. Combined with the (now delayed) Clean Fuel Act that was already supposed to happen, don't be surprised if we start seeing 15% in 87 octane blends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by M.alex View Post
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    I wonder why some co-op locations premium would contain ethanol and some wouldn't - you'd think it comes from the same source for all stores? (I tested and confirmed 2 locations in the south today) Unless it has to do with different store ownership maybe.

    Until ~2 weeks ago Shell was definately ethanol free. I have a jerry can I filled up 2 weeks ago at McKenzie Shell - 0% ethanol. Same location today - 10% (and every Shell location I tried)
    Calgary Co-op is slowly dropping Federated Co-op as their fuel supplier. The Federated refinery in Regina hasn’t been using ethanol in their fuel, not sure who co-op is buying from now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darell_n View Post
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    Calgary Co-op is slowly dropping Federated Co-op as their fuel supplier. The Federated refinery in Regina hasn’t been using ethanol in their fuel, not sure who co-op is buying from now.
    Do you know if locations outside of Calgary, like Okotoks or High River, continue to use that refinery?
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    Calgary coop is totally separate from co-ops outside of Calgary and Airdrie. Not related companies.

    Federated cooperatives runs the refinery and is the parent organization for the rural cooperatives still

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    Okotoks is part of Calgary Co-op as well as Strathmore. Nothing I know of outside the circle of Airdrie, Okotoks, Strathmore, Cochrane (Cardlock).

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    Pure gas.org shows shell 93 as e0 and 91 as e10, not sure if this is from a confirmed source

    - - - Updated - - -

    By the way Costco 91 is supposed to be e0, at least from the last time I checked with their customer service a couple months ago

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincent275 View Post
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    Pure gas.org shows shell 93 as e0 and 91 as e10, not sure if this is from a confirmed source

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    By the way Costco 91 is supposed to be e0, at least from the last time I checked with their customer service a couple months ago
    I've tried Costco 91 a few times and had very poor mileage from it, even if it's ethanol free.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xamim View Post
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    I've tried Costco 91 a few times and had very poor mileage from it, even if it's ethanol free.
    Noticed that as well, I actually found Chevron 94 is not much more $ per km in my FRS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Twin_Cam_Turbo View Post
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    Noticed that as well, I actually found Chevron 94 is not much more $ per km in my FRS.
    for me the mileage seems to be minor, 0.5l/100km it seems, turbocharged and NA. Butt dyno for shell seems just a bit quicker but no significant difference

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    Quote Originally Posted by vincent275 View Post
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    Pure gas.org shows shell 93 as e0 and 91 as e10, not sure if this is from a confirmed source

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    By the way Costco 91 is supposed to be e0, at least from the last time I checked with their customer service a couple months ago

    I tested 93 at several Shell stations - it definitely has 10% ethanol
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    Quote Originally Posted by vincent275 View Post
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    By the way Costco 91 is supposed to be e0, at least from the last time I checked with their customer service a couple months ago
    Costco has 'May Contain 10% Ethanol' on both 87 and 91 last time I filled up.
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    Latest Shell 91 with ethanol has reduced maybe 20-30km off usual range.

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