China politics and economy MEGA Thread.

[Yolobimmer]

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The proponent of this theory is that US stop being "peacekeepers" = end of world trade as every country's 2 dime military can now fight for their own self interest without interference.

You can already see the vacuum Russia left behind. CSTO is dead as Russia can't even deal with Ukraine. Azerbaijan is going after Armenia again. Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan has flared up again. This seriously put part of BRI in jeopardy.

If US doesn't give a shit and let Iran vs Saudi Arabia go at each other and China/India will be out of oil as most of Russian oil will be offline after this winter when glut and pipe freezes.

China doesn't have the navy to be world police. And locking down South China Sea doesn't buy them anything as 85% of their oil comes from the Saudi. When it get desperate, all oil tankers can be intercepted by Indian navy.

The US has done nothing but create instability in its favour. Trade barriers, stupid patents, illegal sanctions, blockades, funding unrest and radical groups etc.

Trade will improve once America fucks off.

[Xtrema]

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Trade barriers, stupid patents, illegal sanctions, blockades, funding unrest and radical groups etc.

Then you realize every major power in the globe is doing the same. It's just part of the game.

Trade barriers:
China ban Australian coal until government changed.

Stupid patents:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladit...h=5b03b2d55b13

Illegal sanctions:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...visit-l6cv09k3

Blockades:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territ...0the%20area%22.

Funding unrest and radical groups:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxali...ist_insurgency

[Yolobimmer]

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Then you realize every major power in the globe is doing the same. It's just part of the game.

Trade barriers:
China ban Australian coal until government changed.

Stupid patents:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/siladit...h=5b03b2d55b13

Illegal sanctions:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...visit-l6cv09k3

Blockades:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territ...0the%20area%22.

Funding unrest and radical groups:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Naxali...ist_insurgency

"When in Rome"

The US getting a taste of the bitter medicine it has been doling out for decades. boohoo.

It's like Russia and Ukraine. Russia took an example from the US playbook and ran with it. No fucks given here. No rules, or same rules for everyone. Make up your mind.

[Yolobimmer]

China is the most successful economy of the last 50 years.

Went from an 80% "extreme poverty" rate in 1980, to no extreme poverty today, and standard of living skyrocketed.

[jutes]

Sock boy put in his place.


https://youtu.be/AKfKOGwcFN8

He’s a fucking embarrassment.

[Buster]

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Sock boy put in his place.


https://youtu.be/AKfKOGwcFN8

He’s a fucking embarrassment.

Here is a perfect reflection of Canadians.

[Tik-Tok]

At least he wasn't caught shit-talking other world leaders like a highschool girl this time.

[sabad66]

Trudeau is a loser no doubt, but lol @ Xi “putting him in his place”. PMO provides summary readouts of all official conversations, it’s just standard procedure. All western countries do that. If China doesn’t like that then they can fuck right off.

Also look at Xu’s body language…can’t even look sock boy in the eye while he is apparently “scolding” him. Overall watching that was like watching two dumpster fires side by side

[Buster]

Does this have anything to do with the retarded "face" nonsense?

[jutes]

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Trudeau is a loser
Also look at Xu’s body language…can’t even look sock boy in the eye while he is apparently “scolding” him. Overall watching that was like watching two dumpster fires side by side

He was looking at him when he was talking to him, otherwise he looked annoyed while waiting for the translator to finish.

[littledan]

Agreed, jt got scolded. And publishing printout for official convos would be diff than informal discussions like the one they had no? Either way, jt got embarassed and was rude for interrupting. He is so preprogrammed that he just went straight into talking points. A world leader doesnt need to hear your dumbed down propaganda talking points, thats prob why xi just left he's like "fuck this dumb guy does he even know I understand english lol kthxbye"

[kertejud2]

I side with Monty Python on this one.

Why are people in here so upset that Xi’s feelings got hurt?

[ExtraSlow]

Some people care about Canada's reputation on the world stage. Even when the world's great powers are unpalatable, they are still larger players than we are, as a secondary country.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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I side with Monty Payton on this one.

Why are people in here so upset that Xi’s feelings got hurt?

I'm fine with that perspective, too.
But Trudeau is like an automated teller machine at the grocery store and as previously mentioned, he just reverts to his weak talking points instead of seizing an opportunity to swap the power in that exchange.
"Are you trying to tell me you're surprised that our brief conversation is summarized to the non-state-controlled media in Canada??!" A statement like that is what a real leader would say.
Heir Justin is a privileged child who is in far over his head.

[ZenOps]

It is america that has an ego issue.

China just doesn't want to be poor or seen as poor, which is completely normal. #2 out of 200 nations is a very nice place to be, no pressures, no real upkeep. China might make it to #1, but may not actually like it there.

[kertejud2]

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Some people care about Canada's reputation on the world stage. Even when the world's great powers are unpalatable, they are still larger players than we are, as a secondary country.

How does Canada's reputation improve on the world stage by kowtowing to China's insecurities?

[Tik-Tok]

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How does Canada's reputation improve on the world stage by kowtowing to China's insecurities?

You don't need to kowtow, you need to stand firm, not meagerly whisper about Canada's openness and then then scurry off behind the curtain.

[ExtraSlow]

It's a valid question. What is an international reputation and how does one improve it?
The thing with China seems to be a lose-lose scenario because of the asymmetrical balance of power. Probably best to adhere to political norms and avoid the interaction which can only serve to damage us.

[Xtrema]

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Trudeau is a loser no doubt, but lol @ Xi “putting him in his place”. PMO provides summary readouts of all official conversations, it’s just standard procedure. All western countries do that. If China doesn’t like that then they can fuck right off.

Also look at Xu’s body language…can’t even look sock boy in the eye while he is apparently “scolding” him. Overall watching that was like watching two dumpster fires side by side

The way I read this is Xi never granted an official chat to Trudeau. Unlike Macron, Albanese and Biden who got to sit down for hrs and the press is running how Canada is outside looking in.

Whatever they talked about is on the side is friendly gesture. But dude published it to save face to the press about how he get to talk to Xi after all. A total beta schoolgirl move.

Trudeau is under pressure at home about Chinese election influence where he "won". Trying to distance by cancelling Chinese state company investments and arresting some Quebec Hydro spy right before/during G20. So someone in the gov is definitely timing this right to make this a tough trip for him.

If Freeland has a penis, Liberals would have dumped Trudeau already. She is a much better statesman than Trudeau ever will be.

[suntan]

Suggesting people cancel Disney+ is very statesman like.