What's with footy fans?

[killramos]

So what you are saying is… an armed society is a polite society?

It’s weird. I don’t remember immigrating anywhere.

[ExtraSlow]

I understand every word you wrote, and I don't "get it" which probably proves your point. I'm probably the most dispassionate person around, and I'm not even convinced I have any culture, so can't relate on either of those.

Although I do enjoy wordplay and beer, so maybe I could make it work.

[Buster]

Soccer is only popular because poor people can play it everywhere around the world.

[flipstah]

What about basketball?

[killramos]

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What about basketball?

You need a hoop and a court

[Buster]

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You need a hoop and a court

And an air compressor

[tonytiger55]

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So what you are saying is… an armed society is a polite society?

It’s weird. I don’t remember immigrating anywhere.

No. I am saying there is a combination of factors. People reading my post should consider that and no arbitrary pick at one being the whole reason.
Let me correct. One is either a immigrant, child or grandson of a immigrant here. This is one factor of many that contribute. You wont have the same roots or identity as someone living in Yorkshire or other parts of the UK that have generations that lived there before them. I don't need to explain that.

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I understand every word you wrote, and I don't "get it" which probably proves your point. I'm probably the most dispassionate person around, and I'm not even convinced I have any culture, so can't relate on either of those.

Although I do enjoy wordplay and beer, so maybe I could make it work.

Culture by definition is how people live, beliefs, ideals, habits. You do have culture. Everyone has. Some parts of it are similar to others around the world. You enjoy beer and banter. Thats probably the best form of culture and its similar to mine.


There are somethings we wont understand unless experienced. It does not make us stupid or uncultured. I know this first hand when I went travelling. I would recommend going to a football match in the UK if you get a chance. It is something.
Eating a chicken vindaloo in Calgary and running to the toilet is a lot different than eating Lamb Rogan Josh in India and getting Delhi belly&r going on a 12 hour car ride after). Somethings just have to be experienced to understand real struggle and joy.

[bjstare]

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Let me correct. One is either a immigrant, child or grandson of a immigrant here. This is one factor of many that contribute. You wont have the same roots or identity as someone living in Yorkshire or other parts of the UK that have generations that lived there before them. I don't need to explain that.

This is a great post to confirm my tongue-in-cheek comments above.


Anyways, my great grandfather was born here, so I guess I'm the great-great-grandson of an immigrant. How many generations born in the country before we qualify as "having roots and identity"? What's the average in the UK? Apparently that country is the authority and bar to which we must measure.

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And an air compressor

Poor people all over the world must be pumping their bicycle tires up with something...

[ExtraSlow]

I'm just a poor child of immigrants. Although they severed their ties with the old country pretty well.

[killramos]

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No. I am saying there is a combination of factors. People reading my post should consider that and no arbitrary pick at one being the whole reason.
Let me correct. One is either a immigrant, child or grandson of a immigrant here. This is one factor of many that contribute. You wont have the same roots or identity as someone living in Yorkshire or other parts of the UK that have generations that lived there before them. I don't need to explain that.

Did you just assume my gender?

[Tik-Tok]

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I'm just a poor child of immigrants. Although they severed their ties with the old country pretty well.

Did they invade Poland?

[ExtraSlow]

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Did they invade Poland?

I'm not up on my history, but I don't think so.

[tonytiger55]

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Anyways, my great grandfather was born here, so I guess I'm the great-great-grandson of an immigrant. How many generations born in the country before we qualify as "having roots and identity"? What's the average in the UK? Apparently that country is the authority and bar to which we must measure.

That is actually a really good question.

How long does it take for a community to build and form an identity? Also do the other communities that have lived there accept you?
That measure is usually the country the person has left not necessarily the UK.
I could see my parents having slightly different habits to those from India. They were not always accepted by local people. As a second generation born in the UK. I was not always accepted, some did. I am not accepted in India by the locals. Now the third generation possibly has a lot more. Thats a interesting obersavtion from me.
But do the other communities accept them? If there was a war would one go and fight? Muhammad Ali's response to this was interesting when he did not fight in Vietnam. 'No Vietcong has ever called me a nigger'. Being accepted by the society one is in plays a factor in that.

Also a second point that I touched on. War and extreme civi disorder. Do you think that has a impact on your identity? If person A has three generations in a country. Vs Person B who has three generations in a country. But has fought for it and has children. Is that claim to the land stronger? Does that deepen the roots within the generations?

[JRSC00LUDE]

They all just mad they didn't have anything better to watch/play growing up.

[killramos]

Doesn’t everyone in the UK mostly all hate each other’s guts?

How many more generations until a sense of community forms and they no longer become immigrants?

[mr2mike]

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I'm just a poor child of immigrants. Although they severed their ties with the old country pretty well.

Until you decide to do a European tour and find your past.
They love that shit. Some NA going over for some history searching.

[riander5]

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What about basketball?

What he said rings true for basketball too.. look at what these NBA players are signing for these days.

[ExtraSlow]

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Until you decide to do a European tour and find your past.
They love that shit. Some NA going over for some history searching.

My bro went and got pics of the house my dad grew up in. actually have some relatives over there still that I could talk to if I wanted.

[ercchry]

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Until you decide to do a European tour and find your past.
They love that shit. Some NA going over for some history searching.

[Buster]

Donald Glover was right ... Chevy Chase humor didn't really hold up.