INEOS Grenadier

[killramos]

Its more like an OG Land Rover defender with a modern drivetrain.

they are making about 35,000 a year. And theoretically the base cost is around 70-80k based on UK pricing versus comparable vehicles.

Its expensive, but not really out of the range of what these sorts of things go for these days. It will be more expensive than a wrangler rubicon but not by much, likely comparable to a top end Bronco? Ish.

Pickup Ridgeline version coming eventually. Maybe only to Canada not the US because chicken tax.

[bjstare]

Leveraging a third party dealer network would be a dealbreaker for me. Service will be a nightmare on this thing.

Cool, but not worth the risk of headache, IMO.

[killramos]

Sooooo an authentic Land Rover Defender experience

Don’t get me wrong. There are a lot of reasons why I might not go through with my order. It’s been a fun distraction in any case.

I am very concerned that it’s going to come with a 20-30k MPA at launch considering how the market is. It will
Also be nice to see what the long term reviews out of the UK are like before i end Up ordering.

[bjstare]

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Sooooo an authentic Land Rover Defender experience

Basically, yeah. haha.

Better off just getting a new Defender, IMO.

[killramos]

That’s not out of the question

For the meantime. Obsessing over something I can’t buy yet is a very cost effective form of fun for me.

[ExtraSlow]

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For the meantime. Obsessing over something I can’t buy yet is a very cost effective form of fun for me.

I can relate to this.

[R-Audi]

Definitely something to keep in the back of my mind, thanks for the update! Dealer network will certainly be a big reason why this is a hit or miss.

$70k isnt unreasonable with its competition.. Wrangler Rubicon, Bronco, Defender, 4Runner TRD Pro are all around that price point and this (IMO) looks substantially better.

[killramos]

To be clear 70-80k is my number. INEOS won’t release NA numbers.

How I get to that is I take the UK pricing which is released, and compare to similarly prices vehicles in the UK at similar trim levels that are offered here and what they go for.

assuming the analogy of competitors in the UK is similar to here.

Basically. I compare the price of the UK Grenadier to the UK LR lineup with the same engines we have here. Can’t just compare uk MSRP X FX becuase that math rarely holds.

It could well be way north of my number, but I think that will be detrimental to its success unless they layer on some extra goodies here for that number. Just wont be competitive.

[Rocket1k78]

Huge fan of this and the OG defender looks so when the new defender came out i wasnt in love because i felt they went too round but after seeing more of them on the road i would totally buy one.

[ThePenIsMightier]

This vehicle is not $75k. I'm actually concerned it will balloon to closer to $175k
Too bad.

[killramos]

Confirmed pricing ( these are available for order in every market but NA )

52k GBP
85k AUD
60k EUR

Extrapolate your marth however you want

They aren’t G Wagens.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Confirmed pricing ( these are available for order in every market but NA )

52k GBP
85k AUD
60k EUR

Extrapolate your marth however you want

They aren’t G Wagens.

There are no G Wagons, which is part of the upward pressure. And there are no Broncos and no Lexus LX600's, etc.

Market. Is. Hawt!

[ExtraSlow]

There also aren't an grenadiers either.

[killramos]

I think a MPA is likely. 100k MPA… not sure how many allocations have the interest to support that.

[ThePenIsMightier]

The prices in the foreign markets are shitty indicators due to the variety of taxation and hidden or literal tariff issues. Guesses on the Canadian prices of the new Z were similar random number generators.
Take 1999, a New Beetle was $60k CDN in Denmark and $30k here. Denmark borders Germany...

Anyway, wherever the MSRP lands, I think the premium is going to be very significant.

[killramos]

Thanks

[ThePenIsMightier]

Sorry, I'm not trying to shit on your new vehicle ambitions.
It's just my 2¢ that premiums will be high.

[killramos]

I mean I made my assumptions clear. Then you mansplained them to me.

lol

[schurchill39]

You heard him @ThePenIsMightier , quit trying to engage in meaningful discussion to draw interest into this niche vehicle posted on a public forum. Fucking mansplainer

[killramos]

He repeated points I literally said as a lecture to me lol