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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Solution is a faraday cage box for your keys, can’t dupe a signal if there is no signal.

    Or my favourite solution to this problem, insurance.

    As long as they make it gone permanently I’m happy. It’s the amatuers who go for a joy ride and it shows up trashed a few days later that I worry about. Pros don’t bother me at all.
    I agree, but isn't it like a 99% chance of being a junkie taking it for a joyride and an evening full of fun activities (drugs, sex, etc., etc.,)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    It makes no sense using AirTags, especially with those tracking warnings alerting the owner that something is up.
    Flip of a coin hoping target is an Android household?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cjblair View Post
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    I agree, but isn't it like a 99% chance of being a junkie taking it for a joyride and an evening full of fun activities (drugs, sex, etc., etc.,)?

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    No idea the relative proportion.

    But I don’t think the junkies are tagging the cars with GPS beacons and reprogramming the cars in peoples driveways to make off with them.

    Not having your car stolen by junkies is more in the “don’t leave your keys in the unlocked car” level of preparation haha

    Sounds like there is a new generation of wideband encrypted keyless entry, more tied to your cell phone, that will make this sort of thing obsolete in a few years.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nzwasp View Post
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    With the latest update to the airtags, if you are not with the air tag for a period of a few days it starts beeping. Cant see how the owner wouldnt notice if their car was beeping strangely
    I thought the original warning is set at 3 days. So in theory, you can track non-iphone owners for 3 days without a single beep. Since most cars are parked at night, they can come for it that very night if the car owner isn't using iPhone.

    The key is now they can shop for the cars at the malls instead of driving around trying to find them. I would bet they would mostly target big Toyota with hitches or trucks/suvs that are too big for most garages. Those has a huge market in Africa and ME.

    EDIT: Looks like it's updated to 24hrs and it start beeping. But it's still enough time to track that car down and snatch it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by cjblair View Post
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    I agree, but isn't it like a 99% chance of being a junkie taking it for a joyride and an evening full of fun activities (drugs, sex, etc., etc.,)?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xtrema View Post
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    I thought the original warning is set at 3 days. So in theory, you can track non-iphone owners for 3 days without a single beep. Since most cars are parked at night, they can come for it that very night if the car owner isn't using iPhone.

    The key is now they can shop for the cars at the malls instead of driving around trying to find them. I would bet they would mostly target big Toyota with hitches or trucks/suvs that are too big for most garages. Those has a huge market in Africa and ME.

    EDIT: Looks like it's updated to 24hrs and it start beeping. But it's still enough time to track that car down and snatch it.
    The speakers on the Air tags are really quiet so even if the cars were parked in the garage nobody is going to hear it. On the street, zero chance of owner hearing it.
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    Notably the tracking only really works if you come near an apple product as well.

    Seems like a super overblown story by typical media who don’t know what they are talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    Notably the tracking only really works if you come near an apple product as well.

    Seems like a super overblown story by typical media who don’t know what they are talking about.
    I thought you don't need to be near it? All it takes is a random iphone drive by and it will upload the tag's location?

    And if you park your car outside, there is plenty of range for random drive by to pick it up?

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    The main ability to track is by going off nearby iPhones. I doubt someone’s phone in a fast moving metal car 20-30 feet away is going to result in a reliable location fix.

    It’s a tiny little chip with a tiny low power antenna. People expect too much of these things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killramos View Post
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    The main ability to track is by going off nearby iPhones. I doubt someone’s phone in a fast moving metal car 20-30 feet away is going to result in a reliable location fix.

    It’s a tiny little chip with a tiny low power antenna. People expect too much of these things.
    https://www.zdnet.com/article/can-an...a-lost-airtag/

    Sounds like 30kph residential speed works for airtags.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nzwasp View Post
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    Why are these people keeping their mercedes/bmws etc on the street/driveway in the first place
    This article is from Toronto. I've seen $2M+ inner city houses with no garages.

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    You realize you are talking to the guy who made his own furniture out of salad bowls right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kenny View Post
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    The speakers on the Air tags are really quiet so even if the cars were parked in the garage nobody is going to hear it. On the street, zero chance of owner hearing it.
    That and it’s super easy to disable. I mean if these pro car thieves are going to use cloning gear to steal your car by actually tagging them with air tags, I’m sure they’ll kill the speaker.

    Still seems far fetched to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rage2 View Post
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    That and it’s super easy to disable. I mean if these pro car thieves are going to use cloning gear to steal your car by actually tagging them with air tags, I’m sure they’ll kill the speaker.

    Still seems far fetched to me.
    Just wife trying to find out if husband got side chicks, got found out and blame it on the thieves.

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    I was gonna say, no "regular" thief is going to spend $30 on an airtag let alone the receiver amplifier gear and/or reprogramming software, lol
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