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    Default Cabinets or Flooring first?

    In a new build or a full reno, whats your preferred approach; flooring first, or cabinets first?

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    As someone who has had measurements for appliances fucked by this and paid restocking fees on brand new fridges, flooring first. No debates about what the available heights will be ( had someone fuck up the thickness of subfloor that ended up going in and my fridge didn’t fit).

    I have no other rationale for my choice.
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    You don't install flooring ahead of millwork.

    edit - I assume you are referring to kitchen cabinets, vanities and the like?
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    Quote Originally Posted by JRSC00LUDE View Post
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    You don't install flooring ahead of millwork.
    Depends which trade you ask

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    As someone who has had measurements for appliances fucked by this and paid restocking fees on brand new fridges, flooring first. No debates about what the available heights will be ( had someone fuck up the thickness of subfloor that ended up going in and my fridge didn’t fit).

    I have no other rationale for my choice.
    been there; we cut the cabinet down and ordered new doors for it; rather than return the fridge. Į\_(ツ)_/Į

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    ** deleted response as I misunderstood re: selection v. installation
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    I suppose it depends what kind of flooring to some extent but floor before millwork—outside of some commercial applications such as a kitchen—is almost never done in my experience. Also, designers know sweet fuck all about how construction is or should be done (this comment includes more Architects/Engineers than you would think).
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    I chose flooring first but think it depends more on what flooring you're installing. Floating floors have to be installed after as you don't want cabinets sitting on top of a floating floor. Something that's attached to the subfloor like tile or hardwood I think you can do either one. Positives and negatives to both options in that case.

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    Flooring first.
    Similarly, paint first or cabinets first?

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    FWIW, we did end up doing flooring first.
    What kind of flooring?

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    Flooring first.
    Similarly, paint first or cabinets first?
    That can be the wrong answer more often than it's the right one, again depending on what the flooring is of course.

    You paint first, then you touch up if/as needed.
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    I did flooring first, it's way easier to floor a square room, and if you decide to make changes in the cabinets down the road you don't have to re-do the entire floor.
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    I've done it both ways, for the record.

    For a basement recently I probably did it the most "industry standard" way which was drywall mud/tape, millwork (cabinetry, baseboards etc), spray lacquer, prime & paint walls, install flooring, touch up paint etc, install hardware.

    For our kitchen we painted, laid down finish-in-place oak hardwood, installed cabinetry on top, finished hardwood, then installed kickplates etc. This is probably "wrong" but it has worked out well for us.


    @JRSC00LUDE if you were doing prefinished hardwood, I'm guessing you'd prefer to build up cabinet bases by 3/4" and run the hardwood just underneath the cabinets, then install kickplates etc?

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    if you decide to make changes in the cabinets down the road you don't have to re-do the entire floor.
    Yeah this is primarily why I feel like I'd prefer to have my hardwood run underneath my island, at a minimum. Perimeter cabinets, i probably don't care as much, unlikely to change that footprint, ever.

    That said, a water leak in our island here definitely manifested in some cupping hardwood that can be felt, if not seen, around the perimeter of the island. Having no hardwood directly underneath the sink might have changed that outcome.

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    I've done it both ways, for the record.

    For a basement recently I probably did it the most "industry standard" way which was drywall mud/tape, millwork (cabinetry, baseboards etc), spray lacquer, prime & paint walls, install flooring, touch up paint etc, install hardware.

    For our kitchen we painted, laid down finish-in-place oak hardwood, installed cabinetry on top, finished hardwood, then installed kickplates etc. This is probably "wrong" but it has worked out well for us.
    @JRSC00LUDE if you were doing prefinished hardwood, I'm guessing you'd prefer to build up cabinet bases by 3/4" and run the hardwood just underneath the cabinets, then install kickplates etc?
    Yes can do that, although actual real 3/4" hardwood isn't so bad to put under cabinets and I like the clean look. I'd think that one's an "either way is ok" product, but no point paying for all the extra material if there is large amount of cabinetry and a budget to consider.

    Most people are doing glue down or floating LVP's and the like these days. Funny to see DIY guys wonder why their floor is buckling and popping haha. Ceramic, real hardwood, sheet vinyls all ok if you decide you want to.

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    For our kitchen we painted, laid down finish-in-place oak hardwood, installed cabinetry on top, finished hardwood, then installed kickplates etc. This is probably "wrong" but it has worked out well for us.
    This is more or less what we did in the kitchen. Reno was down to the studs. New subfloor -> cabinet bases/boxes -> tile floor -> granite/counters -> millwork (gables, doors, drawers, kickplates, etc all walnut) -> backsplash

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    DIY it would be way easier to floor first but 99% of builders and contractors are not doing floors first. Its a waste of material and the risk of damages to the floor are huge.
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    and I did not have the only say in the matter (most people just want it done ASAP and don't care about quality).
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    If anything we made a better decision because we had a consensus and were all on the same page.

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    edit: I was being silly.
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    Cabinets first 100% of the time.

    Buy extra flooring when you want to move your island, LOL. Any hardwood under an island is going to look like hell if you move your island in the future due to wear and fading.

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    ‘member when people used real wood flooring that could be refinished?
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    The tiler that did my ensuite was pissed that I made him do the entire floor.

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    Those invisible tiles are for flexing, idiot.

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