European Energy Crisis, Foreshadowing for the rest of the world?

[davidI]

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You think they are going to attack Russia over infrastructure damage or put boots on the ground in Ukraine? That's the straw that breaks the camels back?

Supplying weapons or enforcing a No Fly Zone over Ukraine are neither "attacking Russia" nor "putting boots on the ground" but great effort trying to read my comment. Maybe you won't need to repeat Grade 6 again after next year.

[ZenOps]

All Putin really has to do is promise land in Ukraine after its all over and he will get plenty of volunteers.

160 acres to anyone who makes it, plow down natives along the way - exactly how the USA did it.

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Supplying weapons or enforcing a No Fly Zone over Ukraine are neither "attacking Russia"

A no fly zone would guarantee WWIII with NATO in direct combat with Russia.

[ExtraSlow]

Can you guys fuck off with this to the Ukraine war thread?

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[zechs]

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Supplying weapons or enforcing a No Fly Zone over Ukraine are neither "attacking Russia" nor "putting boots on the ground" but great effort trying to read my comment. Maybe you won't need to repeat Grade 6 again after next year.

Do you know how a "No Fly Zone" works? Are you retarded?

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can you guys fuck off with this to the ukraine war thread subforum?

ftfy

[ZenOps]

To get back on rails.

There was a very short period since the beginning of the year where Europeans could buy the "Dubai style" LED light bulbs. 210 lumens per watt, which is roughly twice as efficient as the LED bulbs normally sold in Europe. Congrats to anyone who got them, even though slightly more expensive at beginning of year, its going to make a huge difference from now on.

North America has not jumped on the Dubai style LED, because we have different voltage (240 vs 120 volt AC)

[ExtraSlow]

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/artic...n-saturday-eni

[davidI]

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Do you know how a "No Fly Zone" works? Are you retarded?

Cambridge Dictionary Definition: an area above a country that aircraft from other countries may not enter without risking attack.

It's not attacking Russia. It's preventing Russia from entering the airspace above Ukraine which, is (was?) a sovereign nation and attacking them.

Do you think Finland, Sweden, Germany, Canada, the US, Japan, etc. should just allow Russian 137 Tu-22M3 Backfire, Tu-95 Bear and Tu-160 Blackjack bombers to fly over our air spaces as well to avoid conflict with Russia because they threaten nukes?


Before calling someone a retard, perhaps you should read some actual military intelligence reports and listen to what military strategists and guys like H.R. McMaster have to say lest you being the one who looks retarded.

[suntan]

Russia/USSR has had a long history of flying over other country's airspace.

[davidI]

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Russia/USSR has had a long history of flying over other country's airspace.

Yep, but usually met by fighter jets from that other country, or their allies, to escort them back out.

[suntan]

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Yep, but usually met by fighter jets from that other country, or their allies, to escort them back out.

Absolutely. So when there's a no fly zone, clearly there must be some escalation beyond flying upside down and giving them the finger.

[davidI]

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Absolutely. So when there's a no fly zone, clearly there must be some escalation beyond flying upside down and giving them the finger.

If they get the fuck out of the airspace that is not theirs then there is no escalation. It would be them breaching the airspace.

I'm not sure how people are equating defending sovereign territory outside of Russia with an "attack on Russia".

I guess it's no different than the lefties who think that those who break into someone's house and get hurt should have sort of legal rights against the property owner.

[Xtrema]

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Absolutely. So when there's a no fly zone, clearly there must be some escalation beyond flying upside down and giving them the finger.

[suntan]

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If they get the fuck out of the airspace that is not theirs then there is no escalation. It would be them breaching the airspace.

I'm not sure how people are equating defending sovereign territory outside of Russia with an "attack on Russia".

I guess it's no different than the lefties who think that those who break into someone's house and get hurt should have sort of legal rights against the property owner.

Let's not presume we know how Russia is going to act.

I guess Commies are lefties, so your example is apt.

"Your airspace is my airspace, comrade!"

[ExtraSlow]

you guys are all in the wrong thread.

[ExtraSlow]

Good news for Asian LNG buyers! Europe is planning to cut themselves off from the global market....
https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...ks-2022-09-28/

[ZenOps]

It would make sense for EU nations to triple the guard at energy facilities. Even loss of a small gas plant or electrical relay would just pile on the problems.

[suntan]

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Good news for Asian LNG buyers! Europe is planning to cut themselves off from the global market....
https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...ks-2022-09-28/

You know it's a bad day when the EU has to explain basic economics.

[Xtrema]

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Good news for Asian LNG buyers! Europe is planning to cut themselves off from the global market....
https://www.reuters.com/business/ene...ks-2022-09-28/

I thought UK has already taught them what NOT to do.