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    Alberta still has school zones?
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    Alberta still has school zones?
    Yes its only fucktard Calgary who converted them to playground zones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by firebane View Post
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    Yes its only fucktard Calgary who converted them to playground zones.
    Thinking of the kids as always. They're the future Jyoti voters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mr2mike View Post
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    Thinking of the kids as always. They're the future Jyoti voters.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tik-Tok View Post
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    Should be a flashing speed sign when workers present, and a fine to the company if left on when no workers are present.
    I also feel that construction companies should be fined when they leave the "left/right lane closed ahead" signs up when they aren't, but that's a different discussion.

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    We should have a police officer or sheriff on location at all times when work is happening, and that officer can spend all day ticketing and ensuring safety while workers are present. The fines from traffic infractions in an active work zone should pay for the officers time, and once the workers leave, the officer will be released. Win-win-win. More employment, more safety, more everything.
    I'd be 100% okay with that. Hell, triple the fines. I don't care. I don't speed through construction zones when there are workers present, but I think it's ridiculous to expect me to drive 30km/h when nobody is around.

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    There already is a law saying that construction speed slowdowns are only in effect when workers are present.

    Signs are also supposed to be removed. That's a city bylaw I think though. Yeah that causes mega havoc sometimes. Call 311 if you see them, they are indeed supposed to be fined.

    CPS speed trap vehicles always have hazards on now. There's even one that's covered in yellow that they use in communities.

    Doesn't seem to matter, I see them on Crowchild and there's always some dipshit that zooms right by.

    Hell I was on southbound Glenmore, I saw it a mile away and the two cars in front of me got the flash.
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    There's more to the construction law. As a driver of QEII many times per week, I've witnessed it play out a lot.

    I believe the law states that the construction signs need to be removed/covered and traffic drives normally if there are no workers present OR if the ongoing construction activities do not pose a risk to drivers.

    As such, what happens is, the constructions signs remain enforced even when no workers are present because of a whole host of "activities" remaining a risk.... like a lane milled out, loose chips on the road surface, sharp shoulders, construction equipment close to shoulder, etc, etc. As I said, seen this many many times.

    What really bothers me is when there is no "End of Construction" sign placed anywhere downstream.
    Time keeps moving on and on and on
    Soon we'll all be gone.

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    You mean I can't just ignore the "right lane closed" sign?

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    You mean I can't just ignore the "right lane closed" sign?
    If there's no delineators blocking it you should be able to drive there without issue, but you have to be able to see that it's not blocked off up ahead. Of course this causes a mess upstream when faced with a lane closed sign, you then anticipate it's closed when it actually is open.

    In my experience on QEII, the lane will still be blocked off, speed limit is 80kph even if there are no workers present because some fucking idiot foreman has deemed something a "risk" to passing drivers. I have family that work road construction and their opinion on this law is that it's a useless law because their foreman always has something as a "risk" because they don't want the liability of a crash taking place and not having their ducks in row.
    Time keeps moving on and on and on
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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    You mean I can't just ignore the "right lane closed" sign?
    There's one that needs to be ignored on QE2 SB through Airdrie where they're doing overpass construction. Says right lane closed but it really means the shoulder, not a traffic lane.

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    All I know is that the speed limit for the construction on Stoney near 14th is 100 when they don't do stuff, and 80 when they do.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spikerS View Post
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    As it should be. With how lax policing has gotten, there are a lot of vehicles I see on the road with obvious fake plates, one was even just a black and white print out... I have also been seeing a few modified plates where people have painted numbers to make them look like a different digit. Photo Radar isn't catching these people. The list goes on, but, I for one, want to see more police enforcing traffic laws and the complete elimination of photo radar.





    According to 660 news when I was driving this afternoon, that is exactly what is happening. It can't be used in construction zones when workers are NOT present. Same thing for school zones, photo radar can ONLY be used when school is actually in session.

    It's a start. I want the complete elimination of photo radar, 100%.
    That means they’ll have to put up and take down signage everyday. Doubt they’ll sign up for that extra labor but hopefully it’s true!


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    We also know that the cost of mask use is, essentially, zero.

    So the cost:benefit of mask use is approaching infinity. I'll take that every time. And every time I see someone without a mask, I think they are stupid.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    There already is a law saying that construction speed slowdowns are only in effect when workers are present.
    Except you never know when one is actually present. It's not like they work 9-5
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    The AHS system is quite good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by flipstah View Post
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    That means they’ll have to put up and take down signage everyday. Doubt they’ll sign up for that extra labor but hopefully it’s true!
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    Except you never know when one is actually present. It's not like they work 9-5
    Am I like the only person on Beyond that still drives? When they're present, they cover the 100 signs with 80 signs. And when they're not, the 100 signs are shown. Except when they fuck it up like on Crowchild, where the 80 sign is partially covered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    There already is a law saying that construction speed slowdowns are only in effect when workers are present.

    Signs are also supposed to be removed. That's a city bylaw I think though. Yeah that causes mega havoc sometimes. Call 311 if you see them, they are indeed supposed to be fined.

    CPS speed trap vehicles always have hazards on now. There's even one that's covered in yellow that they use in communities.

    Doesn't seem to matter, I see them on Crowchild and there's always some dipshit that zooms right by.

    Hell I was on southbound Glenmore, I saw it a mile away and the two cars in front of me got the flash.
    Go east on Glenmore towards Langdon and you'll run into two really fucking annoying construction sites that at 6am in the morning NOBODY is around and there is no hazard to human beings or vehicles.

    One zone drops from 100 to 50 and another zone drops from 100 to 80

    Both zones are very close to one another and EVERYONE has been ignoring the speed changes lately.

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    Am I like the only person on Beyond that still drives? When they're present, they cover the 100 signs with 80 signs. And when they're not, the 100 signs are shown. Except when they fuck it up like on Crowchild, where the 80 sign is partially covered.
    Have you driven QEII? 80km/h signs are up 24/7
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    The AHS system is quite good.

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    What the hell are you guys doing in the NE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by suntan View Post
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    There already is a law saying that construction speed slowdowns are only in effect when workers are present.

    Signs are also supposed to be removed. That's a city bylaw I think though. Yeah that causes mega havoc sometimes. Call 311 if you see them, they are indeed supposed to be fined.
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    There's more to the construction law. As a driver of QEII many times per week, I've witnessed it play out a lot.

    I believe the law states that the construction signs need to be removed/covered and traffic drives normally if there are no workers present OR if the ongoing construction activities do not pose a risk to drivers.
    Hmm.... I didn't know that. That's good to know.
    https://globalnews.ca/news/4851874/m...ighways-speed/

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    CPS speed trap vehicles always have hazards on now.
    No they don't, at least I didn't find anything that says they need to have it on. Only that they put it on for their safety at their discretion.

    The black SUV on the right is always on Barlow generating revenue safetying it up. I've never seen its hazards on.

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    Interesting. What's the speed limit there? I passed by one on Stoney on Tuesday night, hazards on. The one on Glenmore also had its hazards on.

    Or maybe it's because it's the dirty NE.

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    It used to be 70km/h, but was lowered to 50km/h for road construction. There's no more construction (or construction signs), but the 50km/h signs are still up.

    This post is a few years old, but it's the most recent thing I can find that addresses photo radar and hazard lights.


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