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    I'll probably get flamed for this but I think the current US administration played Putin perfectly through this conflict. Constantly trusting their intel orgs and pushing all that info publicly was the perfect counter to Russias plan. We've seen their plan unfold now, station troops at the border, breakaway regions declare independence, russia recognizes them then provides 'support' then it's a 'military occupation' then war. But with all the info telling their plan before it happened we saw that all rush in a ~72 hour span. That likely meant their military didn't have time to push forward into the breakaway regions and then regroup and restock pile.

    Definitely looks like Russia is losing all it's momentum and a huge blunder. I genuinely think the US constantly pushing their plan public is a huge underrated part of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FraserB View Post
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    Why have people been so determined to peddle this? It’s been going on for days in places like TikTok and even the company that owns the thing isn’t saying it’s been destroyed
    It’s a more interesting topic than most. Big plane is cool plane.
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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    https://youtu.be/sKetfPkhLew

    I'm just ranting that people can actually think that Putin is on the right side of this, that its just MSM spin and how many people who happen to be in that trump thinking demographic that I personally know actually belives this.
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    That makes about as much sense as your posts re: golf. I.e., not much sense.

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    I’m not even convinced I understand what he was ranting about
    Originally posted by Thales of Miletus

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    guessing who I might be, psychologizing me with your non existent degree.

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    Ukrainian media so take it for what it’s worth.

    https://en.interfax.com.ua/

    18:43 27.02.2022
    Foreigners wishing to join intl legion to be assisted as much as possible to enter Ukraine – Foreign Minister​

    18:18 27.02.2022
    Nearly 100,000 citizens mobilized in Ukrainian army in two days – Commander-in-Chief​


    17:59 27.02.2022
    Russian troops go into tactical retreat near Kyiv, Kharkiv – Arestovych​


    Also some Twitter posts, again take it for what it’s worth, of retired US and UK special forces crossing into Ukraine from Poland to join UKR forces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    I'll probably get flamed for this but I think the current US administration played Putin perfectly through this conflict. Constantly trusting their intel orgs and pushing all that info publicly was the perfect counter to Russias plan. We've seen their plan unfold now, station troops at the border, breakaway regions declare independence, russia recognizes them then provides 'support' then it's a 'military occupation' then war. But with all the info telling their plan before it happened we saw that all rush in a ~72 hour span. That likely meant their military didn't have time to push forward into the breakaway regions and then regroup and restock pile.

    Definitely looks like Russia is losing all it's momentum and a huge blunder. I genuinely think the US constantly pushing their plan public is a huge underrated part of that.
    Russia has no intent to occupy or defeat Ukraine. That's like Afghanistan 2.0. They just need to wreck it with minor effort and keep it wrecked.

    Russia simply wants a no NATO neutral zone, its existence is at stake. The US was going to go nuclear over Cuba.
    This is the same.

    All these people claiming "Russia thought it would be easy " are idiots part of the propaganda machine. Putins example of Kosovo he mentioned the US bombed them for 3 months staright and could not defeated them.

    Newsflash. Putin is smarter than you or any of our leaders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by r3ccOs View Post
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    https://youtu.be/sKetfPkhLew

    I'm just ranting that people can actually think that Putin is on the right side of this, that its just MSM spin and how many people who happen to be in that trump thinking demographic that I personally know actually belives this.
    Right or wrong, he is doing exactly, step by step what the US has already done.

    Cuban missile crisis, bombing zyugolsavia for Kosovo, invading far off lands in the claim of "national security." Except this is right on a border through which Russia has been wrecked several times. In other words, more legitimate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yolobimmer View Post
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    Russia has no intent to occupy or defeat Ukraine. That's like Afghanistan 2.0. They just need to wreck it with minor effort and keep it wrecked.

    Russia simply wants a no NATO neutral zone, its existence is at stake. The US was going to go nuclear over Cuba.
    This is the same.

    All these people claiming "Russia thought it would be easy " are idiots part of the propaganda machine.

    Newsflash. Putin is smarter than you or any of our leaders.

    https://youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4
    Nobody gives a shit about your opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    Nobody gives a shit about your opinion.
    It's not my opinion. It's the facts that the smartest people in the world are telling you and you think you know better lol.

    Dumb ass.

    Watch it.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JrMiSQAGOS4

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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    Nobody gives a shit about your opinion.
    Why are you yelling at the clouds? There’s nobody here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darell_n View Post
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    Why are you yelling at the clouds? There’s nobody here.
    People with small dicks and insecurity have me on ignore.

    Smart people read everything, not just drivel that re enforces what they think they know.
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    Haha. Fast response time! Great reader engagement.

    Thanks you to my fans.

    Must really burn up the small dick insecurites that think they hold a monopoly on discourse, and are only here to hear people agree with them. Like a big ol Texas circle jerk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yolobimmer View Post
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    Right or wrong, he is doing exactly, step by step what the US has already done.

    Cuban missile crisis, bombing zyugolsavia for Kosovo, invading far off lands in the claim of "national security." Except this is right on a border through which Russia has been wrecked several times. In other words, more legitimate.
    Are you Toma?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacman View Post
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    Are you Toma?
    Seems to be the most common accusation.

    Are you really yellow and swallow dots?

    The facts you quoted are directly from the video I keep linking and also what Putin has said over the last few weeks for those paying attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pheoxs View Post
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    Nobody gives a shit about your opinion.
    His opinion on this is not very skewed. A lot of Balkan people who endured or in some way experienced the bombings by Nato understand theres a little more to this than just people thinking hes wanting to take over Ukraine.

    Putin isnt stupid exactly stupid either. Now go ahead and hate me for siding with @Yolobimmer on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shlade View Post
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    His opinion on this is not very skewed. A lot of Balkan people who endured or in some way experienced the bombings by Nato understand theres a little more to this than just people thinking hes wanting to take over Ukraine.

    Putin isnt stupid exactly stupid either. Now go ahead and hate me for siding with @Yolobimmer on this one.
    You don't have to be Balkan. You just have to put yourself in the other person's shoes. Take the other perspective and don't assume they are just nuts.

    These experts aren't crazy. Putin isn't just a mad man doing this for fun. This has been brewing since east Germany fell according to these people (Maersheimer, Chomsky, right from Putin himself. Listen to hin speak on YouTube, older economic stuff. He isn't crazy)

    Putin has been clear and articulate why he is doing it, and citing specific precedents to justify his actions. It's flawless more or less. Why people insist on intrajecting their own guesses and ignorance is a mystery.

    But tell me the scary crazy Russian narrative hasn't been pushed on us for years. They hacked this, they got dirt on Trump. They are gonna shutoff American gas mid winter etc. It's been relentless, preparing for this move to push NATO to their border.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pacman View Post
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    Are you Toma?
    Haven't read the ramblings for weeks but Toma had less vocabulary and more temper. It could be medicated Toma I suppose.
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    Once again another useless post by JRSCOOLDUDE.
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    Don't let the e-thugs and faggots get to you when they quote your posts and write stupid shit.
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    I say stupid shit all the time.
    ^^ Fact Checked

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    Quote Originally Posted by JRSC00LUDE View Post
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    Haven't read the ramblings for weeks but Toma had less vocabulary and more temper. It could be medicated Toma I suppose.
    yeah, yolobimmer hit my ignore feature faster than anyone else ever has.

    While he may not be the toma, he is certainly a toma.

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