Calgary police shooting

[Shlade]

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I havent seen the video and dont intend to click it. I will say 2 things:

1. Anyone with a knife in close proximity to other people is 100% a lethal threat and if they lunge, run, jump, twitch toward another person they are basically choosing their own destiny and the officer has no choice but to shoot
2 - I think it is time to re-evaluate dog vs human life. Yes, I know that dog is serving as an officer but its a dog, even if you kill a dog you shouldnt necessarily take the ambient temperature challenge. I know it probably takes a shit tonne of money to train and certify a working dog like that but its still dog v human


Tldr: if your holding lethal force and near bystanders you gon die unless you drop it, should be allowed to stab a dog and not die unless you come close to human victim

IMO, a K9 is as much of a working officer as a human being. You threaten to harm or kill one, you've now put yourself in the same position if you were to do it to another human officer. Thats just my opinion.

Personally, even if not in working capacity, if somebody were to attack my dog, id react with appropriate force as well. Then again, i value a dogs life more than most piece of shit human beings whom are nut cases and have no remorse for injuring others.

[Yolobimmer]

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IMO, a K9 is as much of a working officer as a human being. You threaten to harm or kill one, you've now put yourself in the same position if you were to do it to another human officer. Thats just my opinion.

Personally, even if not in working capacity, if somebody were to attack my dog, id react with appropriate force as well. Then again, i value a dogs life more than most piece of shit human beings whom are nut cases and have no remorse for injuring others.

Did you know each K9 dog lives with his police officer, full time?

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K9 cops view the dogs much more like tools than we think they do. Expensive, yes, but very expendable..

No they don't. They live with their dogs and they take years to train.

[FraserB]

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I havent seen the video and dont intend to click it. I will say 2 things:

1. Anyone with a knife in close proximity to other people is 100% a lethal threat and if they lunge, run, jump, twitch toward another person they are basically choosing their own destiny and the officer has no choice but to shoot
2 - I think it is time to re-evaluate dog vs human life. Yes, I know that dog is serving as an officer but its a dog, even if you kill a dog you shouldnt necessarily take the ambient temperature challenge. I know it probably takes a shit tonne of money to train and certify a working dog like that but its still dog v human


Tldr: if your holding lethal force and near bystanders you gon die unless you drop it, should be allowed to stab a dog and not die unless you come close to human victim

They didn’t shoot him because he stabbed the dog, they shot him because he was trying to stab and slash the officers he was within arms reach of.

They should have shot him way before he got so close, but I’d imagine cops are a bit hesitant these days because of all the bullshit they face when they are forced to take this kind of action.

And for the record, police service dog > criminal with a knife every day of the week

[Buster]

How many shots did it take to kill that crazy fucker? I mean - get bigger guns guys.

[Shlade]

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Did you know each K9 dog lives with his police officer, full time?

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No they don't. They live with their dogs and they take years to train.

Yes, im very aware of K9s living with their handlers and families.

[FraserB]

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How many shots did it take to kill that crazy fucker? I mean - get bigger guns guys.

The extra $1 in ammunition cost that four shots versus two represents is just making sure there is a cost saving to the justice system.

[Sentry]

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How many shots did it take to kill that crazy fucker? I mean - get bigger guns guys.

Bigger?

[Yolobimmer]

Not sure why there were 6 shots.

2 were warning shots. Standard 3 shots to kill after is 5.

The sixth shot was a fuck you for stabbing my dog.

[tcon]

Any updates on the doggo? I assume it will get a nice retirement now, hopefully it's OK.

Oh that aggressive piece of shit with a knife is dead? who cares

[rage2]

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Not sure why there were 6 shots.

2 were warning shots. Standard 3 shots to kill after is 5.

The sixth shot was a fuck you for stabbing my dog.

The comments says there were only 3 shots. The previous shots were non lethal weapons.

[FraserB]

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Not sure why there were 6 shots.

2 were warning shots. Standard 3 shots to kill after is 5.

The sixth shot was a fuck you for stabbing my dog.

Lol, warning shots? “Standard 3 shots to kill”

Are you so hellbent to comment that you just create fiction?

[Yolobimmer]

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Lol, warning shots? “Standard 3 shots to kill”

Are you so hellbent to comment that you just create fiction?

Yes. 3 shots is standard per kill. They don't do "take out the leg" stuff.

I thought I heard 6 total, but we were in the DQ, dont recall if they sounded different, or if it was just the excitement of hearing gunshots.

[FraserB]

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Yes. 3 shots is standard per kill. They don't do "take out the leg" stuff.

I thought I heard 6 total, but we were in the DQ, dont recall if they sounded different, or if it was just the excitement of hearing gunshots.

There is no “3 shots to kill” standard or any other prescribed number of shots, police shoot center mass until the threat is stopped. The police don’t fire warning shots at people either, all the warnings come before lethal force is used.

[ExtraSlow]

I'm still baffled that people think the fact that k-9's live with thier handlers makes any difference to thier training about shooting humans.

The whole point of dogs is to have them advance on threats that a human office would not.... Because they are valued lower.
I mean, I love dogs, but cop dogs < cops. That's baked in to the whole program.

Going off on a tangent about what a civilian might do when thier pets are threatened is also wildly beside the point.

[littledan]

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They didn’t shoot him because he stabbed the dog, they shot him because he was trying to stab and slash the officers he was within arms reach of.

They should have shot him way before he got so close, but I’d imagine cops are a bit hesitant these days because of all the bullshit they face when they are forced to take this kind of action.

And for the record, police service dog > criminal with a knife every day of the week

Right on. Seems like a good shoot then.

[Yolobimmer]

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I'm still baffled that people think the fact that k-9's live with thier handlers makes any difference to thier training about shooting humans.

The whole point of dogs is to have them advance on threats that a human office would not.... Because they are valued lower.
I mean, I love dogs, but cop dogs < cops. That's baked in to the whole program.

Going off on a tangent about what a civilian might do when thier pets are threatened is also wildly beside the point.

WRONG! Each dog has a speciality. Usually they all do tracking.

A dog is NEVER sent in as expendable. However, they can be sent in as a non lethal take down when the officer feels its warranted. Like a smart Taser.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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I'm still baffled that people think the fact that k-9's live with thier handlers makes any difference to thier training about shooting humans.

The whole point of dogs is to have them advance on threats that a human office would not.... Because they are valued lower.
I mean, I love dogs, but cop dogs < cops. That's baked in to the whole program.

Going off on a tangent about what a civilian might do when thier pets are threatened is also wildly beside the point.

Notice that they don't use white dogs?!??! Didn't think so!
Pretty easy to sacrifice dogs when they're canines of colour!

[Misterman]

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IMO, a K9 is as much of a working officer as a human being. You threaten to harm or kill one, you've now put yourself in the same position if you were to do it to another human officer. Thats just my opinion.

Which seems to be how the law looks at it too. Which always makes me question how it is a dog can sit there and maul the shit out of a perp who has submitted, or why a dog can maul someone at all, when actions like that from an officer would be excessive force and a massive lawsuit to the police?

[Yolobimmer]

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Which seems to be how the law looks at it too. Which always makes me question how it is a dog can sit there and maul the shit out of a perp who has submitted, or why a dog can maul someone at all, when actions like that from an officer would be excessive force and a massive lawsuit to the police?

Are you stupid?

[mr2mike]

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Notice that they don't use white dogs?!??! Didn't think so!
Pretty easy to sacrifice dogs when they're canines of colour!

The program is pretty discriminatory. I mean mostly German Shepherd's. Where are the Scottish Terriers?
Scottish people must be building a protest facebook page and marching soon.