Taiwan MEGA thread

[Buster]

Now that the POS authoritarian gov't invasion party is in full swing, let's talk about China and Taiwan.

Ukraine isn't of any real strategic value to...anyone (except maybe the Russians). I think the view will be different on Taiwan. Chinese expansionism, the manufacturing importance of Taiwan, etc.

Will the US intervene militarily in Taiwan? I doubt it, but it could lead to some different policies with say Japan and Korea.

[killramos]

I personally hope they get Tom Cruise up in the air for some awesome top gun dog fights.

[Shlade]

Stocks to invest in when they go down?

[ExtraSlow]

I think the correct name is Chinese Taipei.

[flipstah]

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Stocks to invest in when they go down?

Foxconn so AAPL

[Manhattan]

With how complicated Ukraine is becoming it only deters Chinese action if they were even thinking it. Would be much more difficult to sanction China given the world's dependence on their money & stuff.

I will say that just like Ukraine was gradually leaning towards NATO/EU/western democracies and Russia had a closing window to 'take Ukraine back' the same is just as if not more true for Taiwanese independence. Younger gens don't remember Taiwan being a part of China and much more aligned to western ideas. Older gen Taiwanese mostly favor reunification its the 'how' that prevented it from happening.

[ThePenIsMightier]

We can't be sure what Putin takes in Ukraine until he's done. And if he only "helps the areas that wish to secede" become part of Russia, then what he's doing really isn't that bad... It's possible that their action will be limited to that. I have no idea where he will stop and before everyone jumps down my throat, please realize that you also have no idea.

If it ends up "only" being that^ then it's not really equivalent to China taking Taiwan... Is it?

[Xtrema]

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I personally hope they get Tom Cruise up in the air for some awesome top gun dog fights.

He already sold out by removing the Taiwan patch on Maverick's jacket.

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With how complicated Ukraine is becoming it only deters Chinese action if they were even thinking it. Would be much more difficult to sanction China given the world's dependence on their money & stuff.

I will say that just like Ukraine was gradually leaning towards NATO/EU/western democracies and Russia had a closing window to 'take Ukraine back' the same is just as if not more true for Taiwanese independence. Younger gens don't remember Taiwan being a part of China and much more aligned to western ideas. Older gen Taiwanese mostly favor reunification its the 'how' that prevented it from happening.

That's my view as well. I think the fight Ukrainians was able to put up actually defang military expansion anyone else had in mind. But ADIZ violation continues from Chinese jets and $100M of Patriot missile is arriving on the island soon, so again 1 accident and we can see things escalate really fast.

Economically, China may not do it this year because of Ukraine and general economic issue in 2022. Many governments are going into bankruptcy as the real estate bubble pops and land sale slows/stops. Their action in the banking sector shows that they need to stay on SWIFT as people are suffering as it is and doesn't need any more shock.

It is an "election" year for China and Taiwan too. Taiwanese media is using Ukraine crisis to lecture the Taiwanese government about importance of staying neutral instead of provoking China as independence is considered sedition and by Chinese law will invite military interventon.

From a geographical defense perspective, Taiwan to China has the same value as Ukraine to Russia. So while there are no ethnic issues for an excuse to start, it's more of a ideological issue between people over and 40 and under 40.

[redline]

can the honkey bois fight on three fronts? that is a lot of freedom up for grabs

[tonytiger55]

With all the attention on Ukraine, im suprised China has not made any move on Taiwan..

[ExtraSlow]

Am I way out of line saying that China "retaking" Chinese Taipei is a smaller deal than Russia invading Ukraine?

[killramos]

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Am I way out of line saying that China "retaking" Chinese Taipei is a smaller deal than Russia invading Ukraine?

I’m guessing Taiwan is more economically significant than Ukraine

Ukraine is basically a European Canada

[Xtrema]

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With all the attention on Ukraine, im suprised China has not made any move on Taiwan..

https://financialpost.com/pmn/busine...rades-source-2

They seems to be playing ball so far.

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Am I way out of line saying that China "retaking" Chinese Taipei is a smaller deal than Russia invading Ukraine?

Ukraine doesn't stop me from achieving middle class status by acquiring a PS5.

Seriously tho, until TSMC fabs are ready in Arizona and Japan, we are royally fucked riding on AMD chips in servers and arm chips in phones.

[ExtraSlow]

Nah

[Buster]

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Am I way out of line saying that China "retaking" Chinese Taipei is a smaller deal than Russia invading Ukraine?

Taiwan is far more important than Ukraine.

[JRSC00LUDE]

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Taiwan is far more important than Ukraine.

Taiwanese dumplings and Vareniki are nearly indistinguishable.

[KLCC]

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Taiwan is far more important than Ukraine.

Taiwan is not part of UN nor has any strategic importance to western society (NATO or otherwise).

Taiwan, according to the UN resolution 2758 belongs to China. It isn't a sovereign nation like Ukraine, therefore, I fail to see how Taiwan is more important than Ukraine.

[Buster]

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Taiwan is not part of UN nor has any strategic importance to western society (NATO or otherwise).

Taiwan, according to the UN resolution 2758 belongs to China. It isn't a sovereign nation like Ukraine, therefore, I fail to see how Taiwan is more important than Ukraine.

Hi Xi

[killramos]

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Taiwan is not part of UN nor has any strategic importance to western society (NATO or otherwise).

Taiwan, according to the UN resolution 2758 belongs to China. It isn't a sovereign nation like Ukraine, therefore, I fail to see how Taiwan is more important than Ukraine.

Dude. Do the world a favour and cut the sig

[KLCC]

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Hi Xi

That's emperor Xi to you