UCP Special General Meeting

[killramos]

I don’t know why the east wouldn’t be ecstatic to be rid of us.

No Alberta seats and you basically guarantee Liberal majority forever.

No Alberta and you can meet climate goals EZ mode.

No Alberta no more embrassment.

It’s really a no brainer.

Unless it really is about wealth transfer from the west to the east, like the Liberals totally claim doesn’t happen.

Nahh

[suntan]

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Was that directed at me?

Yes.

[Masked Bandit]

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Yes.

Well I'm afraid I'm not following you then friend. My objection to Jean or Smith running the UCP is that they are too far to the right to appeal to enough Albertans to win a provincial election which means the NDP will have a decent shot at government and that's something I don't want to see. Winning the leadership campaign doesn't mean anything if you can't win the next provincial election.

[killramos]

The NDP didn’t win an election because their popularity rose.

They won an election because the WR and PC split the vote.

NDP support wasn’t dramatically different in the last two elections. Yet resulted in a swing from majority NDP to majority UCP.

The “rightness” of the UCP is irrelevant so long as it doesn’t result in a splinter party, in this sense more right is probably better.

[suntan]

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Well I'm afraid I'm not following you then friend. My objection to Jean or Smith running the UCP is that they are too far to the right to appeal to enough Albertans to win a provincial election which means the NDP will have a decent shot at government and that's something I don't want to see. Winning the leadership campaign doesn't mean anything if you can't win the next provincial election.

What killramos said.

It's the same reason why the Ontario PC party keeps winning.

[Tik-Tok]

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Then they aren't conservatives,

It doesn't matter what you call them, it's their vote (or lack of vote) that matters.

I still see a UCP win, but also a post election splintering if Smith wins.

[Masked Bandit]

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The NDP didn’t win an election because their popularity rose.

They won an election because the WR and PC split the vote.

NDP support wasn’t dramatically different in the last two elections. Yet resulted in a swing from majority NDP to majority UCP.

The “rightness” of the UCP is irrelevant so long as it doesn’t result in a splinter party, in this sense more right is probably better.

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What killramos said.

It's the same reason why the Ontario PC party keeps winning.

And my concern is that BJ and DS are so far to the right that they'll lose a lot of the urban conservative voters by pandering to vocal minority out on the fringes thus allowing the NDP to run up the middle again just like 2015. I don't think they would even need to start a whole other party to split the vote so to speak, I'm worried that more centrist conservatives just won't tolerate BJ / DS. I hope to Christ I'm wrong though.

[killramos]

People will shut up and vote conservative on Election Day.

The idea that masses of people are going to flip from from the Conservative party to the NDP is kindof bizarre. Regardless of who is leader.

[suntan]

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And my concern is that BJ and DS are so far to the right that they'll lose a lot of the urban conservative voters by pandering to vocal minority out on the fringes thus allowing the NDP to run up the middle again just like 2015. I don't think they would even need to start a whole other party to split the vote so to speak, I'm worried that more centrist conservatives just won't tolerate BJ / DS. I hope to Christ I'm wrong though.

I don't know what Kenney was but I'm sure he wasn't "far right" - whatever the fuck that means anyhow - and he's gone.

I guess Nazis?

[zechs]

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I guess Nazis?

Literally nazis*

[zechs]

https://globalnews.ca/news/7084867/j...ation-threats/

I mean, nice to know where Kenney stood all this time. Also interesting to note he is interfering with the election.

He needs to be removed as premier now.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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https://globalnews.ca/news/7084867/j...ation-threats/

I mean, nice to know where Kenney stood all this time. Also interesting to note he is interfering with the election.

He needs to be removed as premier now.

Are you trying to tell me that the guy from Oakville, Ontario isn't all about BertaSep?!!¿!¡?

Le shock.
I'll grab a pamphlet for a geography course for you while I'm on campus taking my Civics minor.

[redline]

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People will shut up and vote conservative on Election Day.

The idea that masses of people are going to flip from from the Conservative party to the NDP is kindof bizarre. Regardless of who is leader.

Some will vote with a far right upc , more will stay home, and some will vote ndp

[Buster]

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IMO Smith is the only one who could cause this. Her history may come back to haunt her, and not every Conservative Albertan wants to seperate (or even to threaten seperation).

Probably not useful to use "conservative" in this context

[killramos]

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Probably not useful to use "conservative" in this context

Or “seperate”

[kertejud2]

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IMO Smith is the only one who could cause this. Her history may come back to haunt her, and not every Conservative Albertan wants to seperate (or even to threaten seperation).

Smith has an unprecedented track record at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Im not sure there has been a more inept political operator of the past 30 years.

[Buster]

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Smith has an unprecedented track record at snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. Im not sure there has been a more inept political operator of the past 30 years.

Redford

[kertejud2]

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Redford

If only there were a head-to-head result that could settle this.

[Buster]

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If only there were a head-to-head result that could settle this.

On who was more politically inept?

[ThePenIsMightier]

No.
Touching their dick heads together.
Docking.