Corolla GR debuts Thursday 31st

[gpomp]

Why will this be $50-55k when a WRX with basically the same specs is a $30-35k car?

[bjstare]

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If this is $50k, hell no.

There's a miniscule chance this comes in under $50k.

[Buster]

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Why will this be $50-55k when a WRX with basically the same specs is a $30-35k car?

Supply and demand.

[DonJuan]

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Why will this be $50-55k when a WRX with basically the same specs is a $30-35k car?

This may be a major selling point. Pay the extra 20k not to be associated with the Subie crowd.

*hits the vape* bro

[benyl]

inflation, chip shortage, China in lockdown again. Plenty of reasons for this to be expensive.

[gpomp]

WRX has a 6+ month wait, how much more exclusive do you want?

[bjstare]

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WRX has a 6+ month wait, how much more exclusive do you want?

Everything has a 6+ month wait thse days, doesn't it?

I haven't researched this, but I assume the Corolla will be extremely limited in production #'s compared to a WRX.

[ragu]

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Why will this be $50-55k when a WRX with basically the same specs is a $30-35k car?

Unfortunately, This might be priced dumb high and still sell out. Just look at Civic Type R, it’s a beefed up Fiesta ST and selling for 4X the price…

[rizfarmer]

Anyone had any dealer conversations yet? I have and they know nothing, not taking deposits. I’ve never been interested in a yet to be released car so don’t know what to expect about securing an order.

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Unfortunately, This might be priced dumb high and still sell out. Just look at Civic Type R, it’s a beefed up Fiesta ST and selling for 4X the price…

Have you driven both? I guess ‘beefed up’ is subjective but the type R and the Fist are in different leagues.

[ragu]

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Anyone had any dealer conversations yet? I have and they know nothing, not taking deposits. I’ve never been interested in a yet to be released car so don’t know what to expect about securing an order.



Have you driven both? I guess ‘beefed up’ is subjective but the type R and the Fist are in different leagues.

Let me start by saying I love how CTR looks. I drove CTR one day, fiesta ST the next and back to CTR to really make up my mind.

Once a performance car is FWD, it is only fun or maximizes it’s performance in certain conditions: no snow/ gravel etc etc. AWD can be a fun package year around and RWD is more fun in snow, with FWD 6 months of the year it’s just understeer. So, the issue is that CTR is a civic for most of the days in our climate.

Don’t get me wrong. CTR is a great daily package but I couldn’t help but conclude it’s Fiesta’s bigger brother asking for 4x

[Ukyo8]

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Why will this be $50-55k when a WRX with basically the same specs is a $30-35k car?

WRX is a dinosaur, so can probably be built quite cheaply at this point, the new one has a new powertrain and new tech but they could never justify a big price hike with the new generation since the performance is almost identical to a 20 year old WRX.
You're going to see higher levels of performance with the new bespoke powertrain and AWD system in the GR Yaris/Corolla.

The new WRX has had a pretty salty welcome by the enthusiast community, while the GR Yaris has been the sweetheart of the automotive world since it came out with almost nothing but positive feedback from all reviewers.
A lot of hype around the new GR cars will allow them to get away with a higher price point.

[rage2]

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Why will this be $50-55k when a WRX with basically the same specs is a $30-35k car?

The GR Yaris is a.ready priced above the CTR in markets where both are available. GR Corolla will be even more than the Yaris. If anything I think it’ll be over 55k.

[bjstare]

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The GR Yaris is a.ready priced above the CTR in markets where both are available. GR Corolla will be even more than the Yaris. If anything I think it’ll be over 55k.

Yeah, I think a Focus RS had a similar target market to the GR Corolla. It isn't in the same ballpark as a WRX.

[cyra1ax]

My guess is it's going to be around $48k. IMO north of $50k will be a tough ask and it'll end up getting cross shopped against stuff like the A35 and Golf R/S3.

[ExtraSlow]

They are probably going to bring like 7 of these into the country, and they'll be bought by fanbois who don't cross-shop anything. The price isn't the limiting factor.

[Buster]

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The GR Yaris is a.ready priced above the CTR in markets where both are available. GR Corolla will be even more than the Yaris. If anything I think it’ll be over 55k.

they will sell out instantly at 55k.

This is currently a cult car for rich people to add to other much more expensive cars.

[heavyD]

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Why will this be $50-55k when a WRX with basically the same specs is a $30-35k car?

WRX has a basic Subaru AWD system shared with all Subaru's. Nothing special about it or worth an upcharge. The car is basically an Impreza with the engine out of an Outback. The top spec GR AWD system carries a two LSD's which cost $$ as well the G16 engine is assembled by hand at a dedicated Gazoo Racing line in Japan and a rare production car with ball bearing turbo compared to Subaru dime store boxer engine with paper ringlands, cheap rods and pistons. This car is on the level of the STI which has had no issue justifying $45k+ for years even with an antique engine that's almost 20 years old.

[Disoblige]

Ya you can't compare this car to a WRX, that's for sure.

Although, the fact that this comes to $55k is interesting to see when the RS is a better car overall even back in 2016 and cheaper. Glad I still have the RS

[gpomp]

GR Yaris - 257 hp, $55k
WRX - 271 hp, $30k
A35 AMG - 302 hp, $55k
Golf R - 315 hp, $45k
STI - 315 hp, $50k
Focus RS - 350 hp, $50k


Okay so this car will have ~260 hp and will sell for the same price if not more than 350 hp cars? Got it

[bjstare]

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Ya you can't compare this car to a WRX, that's for sure.

Although, the fact that this comes to $55k is interesting to see when the RS is a better car overall even back in 2016 and cheaper. Glad I still have the RS

Weren't RS's over $60k MSRP by the end of the production run?