ExtraSlow needs a different job - 2022 edition

[MOB68]

Are you open to a slight career change or would prefer to keep working in downhole space? I just saw a posting for a "manufacturing" related Eng supervisory position that requires many of your strengths. I know the company and some people quite well, but don't have any direct 'in' with HR.

[suntan]

But first think about what MOB69 could offer.

[ExtraSlow]

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Are you open to a slight career change or would prefer to keep working in downhole space? I just saw a posting for a "manufacturing" related Eng supervisory position that requires many of your strengths. I know the company and some people quite well, but don't have any direct 'in' with HR.

I'm very open to other opportunities. Needs to be somewhere I could really add value, so I'm a little picky on where I apply, but I'm not picky about having the conversations for sure. I'll PM you and we can figure out a time to chat.

[suntan]

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I'm very open to other opportunities. Needs to be somewhere I could really add value, so I'm a little picky on where I apply, but I'm not picky about having the conversations for sure. I'll PM you and we can figure out a time to chat.

You should focus on "how do I make as much money as possible in the shortest time?"

[arcticcat522]

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You should focus on "how do I make as much money as possible in the shortest time?"

OnlyFans.....I could see it

[Darkane]

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From what I am seeing most 15+ year hands are being offered 5+ year salary levels when the company goes to the open market to fill the roll. The same goes for contract rolls through any pimping firm. From my anecdotal experience, direct contract guys or people who were specifically head hunted seem to be offered what most of us would consider a fair wage based on experience and current market.

That being said, like @Disoblige alluded too there is still a huge pool of people to choose from with most positions in upstream getting 100 or more applicants.

Question: how much delta would the pay have - 15 years vs 5 years?

I mean, unless the 15 year guy is a team lead, or low level manager - the pay should be within 10-15k. No?

Both the 15 and the 5 would be doing the same work as new hires??

[Disoblige]

Truth be told unless it is a small company where that role has no support, I would likely take the 5 year candidate anyday. More go-getter attitude usually, not some lazy bum there to collect a paycheck.

[ExtraSlow]

There are absolutely roles where a 5 year is preferable to 15 year. The "go-getter-ness" isnt the main differentiator.

Fit is incredibly important, and years of experience is a legitimate component of fit.

[killramos]

Hiring ambitious 10-15 year guys for every role is a nice theory. Until they all want the same advancingmwnt opportunities, there is only one role for them, then half of them quit in a year and the remaining half are bitter.

[ExtraSlow]

You can't staff a team with all one type of person.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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You can't staff a team with all one type of person.

Does that mean I should stop hiring Mohammed Al Muhammed, M.Eng/PMP?
He seemed as eager as the other thousand we hired when he responded to our LinkedIn posting with "i am Job"... I mean, I could tell he wasn't ready for middle management because his response lacked the tenacity of an "intrasted" but still.

[schurchill39]

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Does that mean I should stop hiring Mohammed Al Muhammed, M.Eng/PMP?
He seemed as eager as the other thousand we hired when he responded to our LinkedIn posting with "i am Job"... I mean, I could tell he wasn't ready for middle management because his response lacked the tenacity of an "intrasted" but still.

Those comments on LinkedIn crack me up. Someone posts an opportunity or shares a link to someone else looking to hire and you get a pile of middle eastern or indian people commenting "Am interested" or "I want job"

[ExtraSlow]

Some of the posts are specifically to get people to post the classic "interested" reply. Must be an identity stealing program or a "pay to apply" scam.

[suntan]

I've gotten a number of broken engrish cover letters/resumes. But lots have WASP names. I'm always amazed at how many white people suck shit at the one fucking language they know.

[riander5]

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Does that mean I should stop hiring Mohammed Al Muhammed, M.Eng/PMP?
He seemed as eager as the other thousand we hired when he responded to our LinkedIn posting with "i am Job"... I mean, I could tell he wasn't ready for middle management because his response lacked the tenacity of an "intrasted" but still.

lmao so true

[haggis88]

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lmao so true

I once reposted a job advert so my buddy could see it as I was on my phone and couldn't work out how to forward it

They even started replying to my post

"Please to check my profile, my email [email protected]"

I had to delete it

[riander5]

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I once reposted a job advert so my buddy could see it as I was on my phone and couldn't work out how to forward it

They even started replying to my post

"Please to check my profile, my email [email protected]"

I had to delete it

It must be tough being an immigrant and being so different than the culture you live in, or most of the professions you aspire to be in. But god damn it is also hilarious sometimes

[haggis88]

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It must be tough being an immigrant and being so different than the culture you live in, or most of the professions you aspire to be in. But god damn it is also hilarious sometimes

Can confirm that being an immigrant in the job market is shite

Funniest part for me is being part of the "god-damn immigrants" conversations, then being told that I'm the "right kind" of immigrant

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

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Can confirm that being an immigrant in the job market is shite

Funniest part for me is being part of the "god-damn immigrants" conversations, then being told that I'm the "right kind" of immigrant

Oof.

[riander5]

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Can confirm that being an immigrant in the job market is shite

Funniest part for me is being part of the "god-damn immigrants" conversations, then being told that I'm the "right kind" of immigrant

Yea its interesting and really to me boils down to people just being complete retards. I know a POC who works on news in Calgary, and they received an email about their lack of colored people on the broadcast and how they should up their diversity, and that the one host who is black, doesn't really look that black anyways so they don't count.

I can't fathom the mental hula hoops some people do to tell themselves to try to be a white knight social justice warrior and then a blatant racist in the same sentence, but it sums that movement up in a nutshell