Twitter Musk and the hilarious meltdown

[ThePenIsMightier]

Deh tuukErr jaabs!!!

[Buster]

Wouldn't people quitting Twitter be a good thing?

Like people quitting the govt.

[davidI]

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Wouldn't people quitting Twitter be a good thing?

Like people quitting the govt.

I think it's great and Elon did exactly the right thing.

Getting lazy woke entitled fucks to voluntarily quit because they're not willing to work hard = Winning.

[rage2]

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I think it's great and Elon did exactly the right thing.

Getting lazy woke entitled fucks to voluntarily quit because they're not willing to work hard = Winning.

Asking to put in 80hr work weeka is a little more than asking for hard work lol. From the ex employee reports, the majority of the people staying are stuck. Employees on visas, or going through health issues and needs the insurance.

[davidI]

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Asking to put in 80hr work weeka is a little more than asking for hard work lol. From the ex employee reports, the majority of the people staying are stuck. Employees on visas, or going through health issues and needs the insurance.

Meh. I've had to do it. If they're not up for working hard towards his vision they can quit and find a new job and bank 3 months severance.

[jutes]

Why is everyone upset over a private social media company? Let it burn and rebuild on the ashes.

[kertejud2]

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Asking to put in 80hr work weeka is a little more than asking for hard work lol. From the ex employee reports, the majority of the people staying are stuck. Employees on visas, or going through health issues and needs the insurance.

It’s not only that, but these are the people that ‘survived’ the first round of layoffs. So they’ve basically been told they’re the critical employees, presumably the ones in the best position to find other employment, and were offered three paid months to do it.

You’re either stuck or you’re an idiot if you don’t take the 3 months pay.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

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Meh. I've had to do it. If they're not up for working hard towards his vision they can quit and find a new job and bank 3 months severance.

Until there's no one left to work, and Elon has to arrange 1:1 meetings with engineers to try and convince them to stay.
80 hour work weeks constantly will cause burnout, and there's still enough of a market out there that these people are all highly sought after.

It's not "a week" of 80 hour work weeks, it's constant weeks. And if it comes out of nowhere from some weird corporate media stunt, I'd quit too, find a job that lets me keep working remote, and work my 40 hours. I'm not dedicated enough to any company to take that kind of abuse, and I kind of already proved to myself that I can find a new job in no time at all when I had competing job offers within a week of marking myself as interested on linkedin.

Why take the abuse when I can pocket the 3 months, find a new job, and keep working at happy, acceptable levels, rather than try to let a billionaire squeeze me dry?

[killramos]

Elon pretty much doesn’t function without surrounding himself with true believer yes men.

That said, pretty sure Twitter is just a more woke Initech anyway. They can all go work for inertrode if they don’t like it.

[rage2]

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Meh. I've had to do it. If they're not up for working hard towards his vision they can quit and find a new job and bank 3 months severance.

Yup, I have as well. At my own company, at a startup where I was given shares up front.

At twitter, you're doing it to help a billionaire not lose his investment. Literally accepting those ridiculous terms on your existing comp, with less than 24h to make that decision.

[ThePenIsMightier]

I've heard that the working hours at Microsoft start at 80, so...
Let's not forget how dumb even smart people are. Working at prestigious companies comes with a price and that price is that there are dozens of people who are willing to take your job who can be hired before the next coffee break.
Don't forget about the Holocaust many many of us endured during the downturns in oil & gas before quietly still showing up at work with the whip marks still visible.

[ExtraSlow]

I'm not a "tech guy" but isn't the biggest problem at Twitter the culture and too many employees? Seems like Elon is solving both.
Sure some good shit will be set back while nobody works on it. Sure they'll lose some good people. No worries.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

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I'm not a "tech guy" but isn't the biggest problem at Twitter the culture and too many employees? Seems like Elon is solving both.
Sure some good shit will be set back while nobody works on it. Sure they'll lose some good people. No worries.

Firing half your employees, begging some to come back, because "oh shit, we need you for this", then offering to double the workload for everyone else and then go "oh shit you all took 3 months of pay to not work twice as hard for no extra compensation", seems like a good way to shoot yourself in the foot.
Typically, when you don't offer extra $$ for extra work, you offer something else like shares (as Rage2 said). When nothing is on the table, there's no incentive to be altruistic for a billionaire.

[ThePenIsMightier]

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Firing half your employees, begging some to come back, because "oh shit, we need you for this", then offering to double the workload for everyone else and then go "oh shit you all took 3 months of pay to not work twice as hard for no extra compensation", seems like a good way to shoot yourself in the foot.
Typically, when you don't offer extra $$ for extra work, you offer something else like shares (as Rage2 said). When nothing is on the table, there's no incentive to be altruistic for a billionaire.

What if... and this is a big if, here... only about 16% of the story we are being fed is true????
Several media companies reporting about a media company that fired some Karens. What possible opportunity is there for the facts to be obscured?!

By the way - how can we even focus on this when "we are in the CoVid trifecta of respiratory Code Brown at the apex of Wave-26!"

[jutes]

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Firing half your employees, begging some to come back, because "oh shit, we need you for this", then offering to double the workload for everyone else and then go "oh shit you all took 3 months of pay to not work twice as hard for no extra compensation", seems like a good way to shoot yourself in the foot.
Typically, when you don't offer extra $$ for extra work, you offer something else like shares (as Rage2 said). When nothing is on the table, there's no incentive to be altruistic for a billionaire.

I mean everyone working for Twitter can just quit if the conditions are so dire. Why are there so many people upset on how Elon manages his company?

[davidI]

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Why take the abuse when I can pocket the 3 months, find a new job, and keep working at happy, acceptable levels, rather than try to let a billionaire squeeze me dry?

And that's the choice they've been given, is it not?

I mean, he obviously wants to change the company culture so he's just ripping off the band-aid and getting 'er done. It's no shock that a lot of tech bois have been overpaid the last decade due to low interest rates and insane liquidity that was pumped into growth companies and now times have changed. Get with it or get out.

Now it's a private shop and Elon will manage it as such. All the big tech companies are cutting staff and they probably weren't as overstaffed with snowflakes as Twitter was.

[Tik-Tok]

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I mean everyone working for Twitter can just quit if the conditions are so dire. Why are there so many people upset on how Elon manages his company?

Not upset, entertained.

[LilDrunkenSmurf]

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What if... and this is a big if, here... only about 16% of the story we are being fed is true????
Several media companies reporting about a media company that fired some Karens. What possible opportunity is there for the facts to be obscured?!

By the way - how can we even focus on this when "we are in the CoVid trifecta of respiratory Code Brown at the apex of Wave-26!"

Fair enough. I'm just playing devil's advocate here for everyone saying "Yeah, trim the fat of the lazy coders!"

[Buster]

Twitter sounds like it was a bunch of kerts.

[rage2]

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I've heard that the working hours at Microsoft start at 80, so...

Have friends at Microsoft. 100% not true. They focus on work life balance, mental health, so much so sometimes to a fault detriment to themselves. It's one of the better tech companies to work for.