Electric Vehicle MEGA Thread.

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Disagree. I run a Bolt EUV as my commuter, and I've calculated and re-calculated the numbers.

It makes sense, for niche purposes. It's not for a daily only vehicle - THAT is for sure.

I drive 35k a year, by year 7-8 the vehicle will be paid for in fuel and oil savings. And it would be worth a few grand at that point.

*all calculations based on 9L/100km and $1.50 average fuel for the next 7-8 years.

I am not talking about cost of fuel vs elec … I am talking carbon and you have to factor the carbon that was used to produce the car just not the carbon produced by the end user.

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I disagree with a lot of this but I'm willing to be proven wrong. Finding out will take decades

Word.. but remember emergencies need action today ….

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Word.. but remember emergencies need action today ….

disagree there too.

[Darkane]

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I am not talking about cost of fuel vs elec … I am talking carbon and you have to factor the carbon that was used to produce the car just not the carbon produced by the end user.

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Word.. but remember emergencies need action today ….

Shrug. Maybe, calculating energy intensive manufacturing processes and lifetime vehicle carbons is complex.

Like in Alberta, we’re some of the cleanest energy in the world. Energy in the transmission lines that is.

When the wind is blowing and the sun is shining, we can do over a third of our power in renewables. And then the rest is basically clean combined cycle gas plants. Very little coal left online now.

Don’t get me wrong I support all forms of Canadian energy and want continued growth.

[ThePenIsMightier]

I'm just so grateful that the trillion tonnes of carbon that got suddenly emitted to our atmosphere from the forest fires was all captured and sequestered away so that it doesn't need to be counted as more than human history over the past 200 years.
Sorry, wrong thread. Things that being be joy.

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disagree there too.

what that there is an emergency? or we need action?

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Shrug. Maybe, calculating energy intensive manufacturing processes and lifetime vehicle carbons is complex.

Like in Alberta, weÂ’re some of the cleanest energy in the world. Energy in the transmission lines that is.

When the wind is blowing and the sun is shining, we can do over a third of our power in renewables. And then the rest is basically clean combined cycle gas plants. Very little coal left online now.

DonÂ’t get me wrong I support all forms of Canadian energy and want continued growth.

the change to EVs is not about killer 0-60 times or cheap fuel... is about carbon reduction ... when you add back the manufaciuring process not a lot saved with evs.

a big part of of the cost of gas is tax, that goes towards roads etc.... the government will eventually tax the shit out of power to replace the gas tax and your simple cost savings will be gone. enjoy it while it lasts.

[The_Penguin]

When is Sodium going to replace Lithium?

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the change to EVs is not about killer 0-60 times or cheap fuel... is about carbon reduction ... when you add back the manufaciuring process not a lot saved with evs.

a big part of of the cost of gas is tax, that goes towards roads etc.... the government will eventually tax the shit out of power to replace the gas tax and your simple cost savings will be gone. enjoy it while it lasts.

gonna miss hearing those sweet exhaust notes

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what that there is an emergency? or we need action?

That it's an emergency, and the second unsaid part, that small local actions would make any meaningful difference if it were.

Know what would reduce global carbon emissions and maybe even climate change? Canada getting behind LNG about 15 years ago and massively increasing our natural gas production.

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gonna miss hearing those sweet exhaust notes

Going to have to go back to putting baseball cards clipped to spokes.

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When the wind is blowing and the sun is shining, we can do over a third of our power in renewables. And then the rest is basically clean combined cycle gas plants. Very little coal left online now.

And since the coal plants have been shut down, the cost of electricity has increased over 600% since they started shutting them down.

[ExtraSlow]

Shutting down the coal plants before their economic life was over was insanity. Although the price of electricity would have gone up either way. Probably not quite as much, maybe just double or triple, not 6x.

[The Cosworth]

Back on track, I saw someone sucking that sweet sweet campground juice to recharge their Ioniq. How long until Campgrounds start to run into issues because of this? I want my AC running all the time, even when Im not there!

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Campground power is notoriously unreliable, but I can see charging my Car there. Book a 30 amp site, drive out Friday (under 200KM) , charge 6PM to 10 AM sat, drive 30 km Saturday, charge 4PM sat to 11AM Sunday, Drive home (200km).

Don't know how much range you add per hour on a standard 120V 30 Amp outlet, but surely those 35 hours of charging are more than sufficient.

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Campground power is notoriously unreliable, but I can see charging my Car there. Book a 30 amp site, drive out Friday (under 200KM) , charge 6PM to 10 AM sat, drive 30 km Saturday, charge 4PM sat to 11AM Sunday, Drive home (200km).

Don't know how much range you add per hour on a standard 120V 30 Amp outlet, but surely those 35 hours of charging are more than sufficient.

Regular 120v / 15 A I get about 6km per hour of range. So 120km a day. I don’t know if there’s any 120v 30A options, most of the higher power ones require 240v instead. So you’d likely need a 50A site for that. Those would fully charge over night as they typically do 40-100km/hr of charge.

For camping it shouldn’t cause issues to other people as some big trailers have dual AC running that probably consume as much power as an EV charger anyways. Though like most things if you schedule it to charger off peak hours / overnight then that would be best

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Probable just end up charging at 15A 120V in a normal 30A camping site then. Oh well, 35 hours at 6 km/h is enough to get you home anyway.

[pheoxs]

Mini update: Got the Ioniq in for tint and PPF last week. And the V2L adapter showed up today. No pics but it simply plugs into the car charging port and then enable V2L on the dash and have a 120V/15A outlet anywhere. Going to give it a shot camping for Canada day as there's no power at the site. Planning to charger in pincher creek before going to Beaver mines lake for camping.

Also road trip #2 is this weekend to Vancouver and back, will update #'s afterwards and hopefully be smooth sailing.

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Moar pics pls.

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Moar pics pls.

Will do once I find some better scenery than a parkade.

On other EV news. I'm assuming this will be fud based on the numbers but if they can pull it off that'll be a fun little truck.

https://electrek.co/2023/06/13/telo-...-as-a-hummers/

TELO is a tiny electric truck the size of a Mini with a bed as big as a Hummer’s

TELO plans to offer a 106kWh battery on its first model, with a dual motor configuration capable of 500 horsepower. This gives the truck a 0-60 time of about four seconds, with a top speed of 125mph.
The company estimates that the truck will have a range of 350 miles, and is targeting a 20-minute charge time from 20-80% capacity (this works out to about a 190kW average charge rate from 20-80%, though it should be able to take about a 320kW peak).
All of this comes in an incredibly small package. It’s only 152 inches long – the same length as the electric Mini Cooper SE. That’s five feet shorter than the Toyota Tacoma, the best-selling “compact” pickup truck in America, and six and a half feet shorter than the F-150 Lightning. And at 4,400 lb., it weighs less than a Tesla Model Y.

[bjstare]

lol, who needs a crumple zone in the front of the car, amirite? I rarely use my legs anyways.